She was person unique not an identity or set of characteristics to be appropriated for socio-political discourse, who was appallingly murdered. I got news for em. Leslie Tisdel was vocal about the film's script changes, and upset that her boyfriend who was murdered, Phillip DeVine, was not included in the film, nor was she, and instead the film focused on Brandon Teena. What about that so called sheriff. Whatever the case, Lotters last appeal was rejected by the Nebraska Supreme Court in September 2018. Tisdel found out he was transgender after his birth name was printed in the local newspaper in the arrests section. BB: Thanks for your most engaging response. Neither of the men had been convicted of rape before. [8], Tisdel graduated from Falls City High School in 1993. Its the person who REALLY matters, not the accidental characteristics that overtake and make abstract the person in the chattering (or twittering) of liberals. Rather, it was clear to *most* of us. Ive read everything you posted here and suspect you are led by the arrogance of being or pretending to be some sort of expert or intimate of Brandon or her family and posting it here to feel important or special. Brandon died at the hands of two low lifes named John Lotter and Marvin Thomas Nissen just before New Years Day of 1994. LARGE TRUCK, If Nissen had raped other local girls before Teena and if pulling the pants off and groping was part of Nissens rape ritual, then Laux would have known this from his interviews of the previous rape victims. Although a slightly irrelevant issue, there is concern here in UK that gender dysphoria is too readily assigned, particularly to children, who are (unbelievably) almost encouraged to consider whether they should be the other sex on slim grounds. Lana M. Tisdel (born May 28, 1975) [2] is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the December 1993 murders of Brandon Teena, Lisa Lambert and Phillip DeVine, at the hands of John Lotter and Tom Nissen, is chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry (which left out DeVine). Unwitting accomplice. Finally, one of the last statements that Teena made was there is no Brandon, I am Teena. Jones leaves stuff out. You oppose the death sentence? Hilary Swank was cast as Brandon and Chlo Sevigny as Lana, and the final result won over . Aug. 24, 2000 -- Brandon Teena lived and loved as a man. She spent two years working at a Mc Donalds restaurant, and they wanted her, a high school drop out to go on the management track. Intellectual? So I dont get why states allows a inmate to marry. Lotter is from a prominent local family with many relatives and they are invested in saving him. There is male and female sex period. It would be nice if people would voice their opinions, using some facts and logic as to how that opinion was reached, then listen to the opposition and the facts and logic from that side. Lotter is not at all remorseful and is incapable of any empathy towards Teena. There was a study that showed black ad brown kids having an inner image of themselves as blond and blue-eyed, like their favorite actors in the movies. R: Fourteen states have no minimum age at which children can be prosecuted as adults, according to the Equal Justice Initiative. Sister didnt have the kind of money the two were asking and she offered to feed them, but the two declined saying that they already ate at a different restaurant. Falls City is a small town, and all of these families were well-acquainted; Lana's best friend was Michelle Lotter, John's sister. His descriptions are great. Although she came off as a protagonist in the 1999 film Boys Dont Cry, Tisdel didnt care much for the Hollywood treatment. Read an update on Lana Tisdel and her mother. The only way I would is if its proven to be a deterrent but Im not sure it has. She wasnt just dreaming of being an outlaw, she was turning into a delinquent. But Jude was stating she was male prior to operation in which case you DIDNT agree! They beat up and raped Brandon one night in December 1993. We all wonder what on earth theyre doing the answer being fetishising the murderous/rapist/criminal object. One last point, there is a Teena Brandons funeral photo just before her coffin goes into the ground. To begin with, Teena had a different name for her male self, not the one you see on the internet. Violence against any woman is a terrible tragedy, but against her was especially tragic, given both, who she was and the circumstances under which it happened. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. The bottom line is these men knew she identified as a man. And if thats transphobic, so what? "The scene is a karaoke bar where Brandon Teena's lost love . His loved ones and a lot of idiots, LGBT types included, are trying to get him off the death row. Identity politics or whatever cannot alter scientific fact. His story of how they murdered Teena also evolves with his demented ego. Teena was new to the close-knit area, from Lincoln, Nebraska, and the local crowd was curious about him. This could have been easily fixed with steroid injections you can get on the street. Really, read up on the outlaw biker violence against women and how Nissen beat Teena by kicking and punching her in the belly every time he beat her. Just pointed out that you agree with Lotter and Nissen. There are military men who transitioned to female after they enlisted, but that is a smoke from another fire. And what do we make of the report in the German academic article that gay cousins kicked Teena out because she brought violence to their home. Is it any wonder that came out of that time with a huge fear of being rejected and ended up on a downward spiral of drinking and chasing girls that let to get suicide attempt, and then ended up desperate to belong with the Falls City biker and burglary set? Lana : No. She corrected him and told him that she was Teena. Nobody knows he is a repeat rapist who has raped other women before he got busted for triple murder. brandon is a he. It costs more to house death row inmates, who are held in segregated sections, in individual cells, with guards delivering everything from daily meals to loo paper. Teena loved authority in the way of any good soldier who will fall in line and gladly stand at attention if the occasion calls for it. [10], In August 2020, Tisdel was injured in a car accident when she struck Glenn D. Aston, 66, head-on. Behind the coffin is Teenas gay cousin and two other cousins who look like him. Once the lie has a toe in the door, your in for a huge amount of trouble and it will just get worse the more hogwash you entertain. The Great Pretender- Disappointment- Case File- Something Precious- You Win Again- Baby It's You 2. Lisa Lambert's name was changed to Candace in the movie. One good argument against capital punishment is its very expensive because of the years of costly litigation (typically over $1m by execution day) years and cost that are probably justified to ensure thorough fairness when life is at stake (defendants have been exonerated years after death row occupancy) Its absurd to take typically 15 years and $1m+ to execute the offender rather than award life without parole: crazy for taxpayers and maddening for victims loved ones experiencing a very protracted deferral of sentence. Unfortunately, this is mixed up with some lies that Nissen utters, claiming that he had no clue that Teena was a girl until she went to prison. Lana When Lana went to bail him out, she was told that Brandon had been placed in the women's jail; putting two and two together, she realized that, anatomically speaking, it could be possible that her boyfriend may actually be a she. A year before Boys Dont Cry, Tisdel herself had appeared in the documentary The Brandon Teena Story, and she seemed like a sympathetic character there, too. Fourth Case A well to do IT professional who rode Harley on weekends decided to join a biker gang, well, a suburban Harley riders club, no real felons among them. Three arrested after student Aya Hachem killed in drive-by shooting in Blackburn By the time he was 21, Brandon was identifying solely as a man and moved in with his 18-year-old girlfriend, Lana. Its an example of the distortion created by PC. WHERE ARE THE VICTIMS APPEALS TO THEIR HORRIFIC DEATHS?? I suggest you leave the diagnosing to the real medical professionals like the doctor who commented here. I In the past, Lana has also been known as Lana M Bachman, Lana Tisdale and Lana M Tisdel. You have no clue just how traumatized Teena Brandon was, how she was headed for statutory rape charges having to do with her dating and giving alcohol to fourteen year at age 20, 21, and little do you know, that had she made it to prison for the violation of probation charges, she had a chance of being involuntarily committed to a State Psychiatric Hospital. One correction: Dominick Dunne is Joan Didians brother-in-law, not husband. VERBALLY/ By same token, any number of women refer to themselves in the masculine in their internal stream of consciousness He being a default for anything not being directly associated with the Female and Feminine. Poor kid. Tom Nissen has a great mask of sanity, and all of the journalists talk to him to get information. I look forward to brand new updates and will talk about this website with my Facebook group. Teena was an awesome girl! Cheers. Recommended for you 7 Saucy Photos of Mysterious Lady Gakui Wangu Spotted Getting Cosy with Sam. But a week later, when her father gave her a signed blank check to get a perm, Tisdel took it to a supermarket and filled it out for $250, the amount needed. I got three, and two got none of the notoriety because it did not involve any identity issues. Shortly thereafter she tried suicide and was put in a psychiatric hospital. Decide for yourselves. The baby was around 8 months old, so it couldnt incriminate them. In addition, according to a State Police report, Teenas sister was trying to get her into a program that helps survivors of rape and domestic violence, and intake staff told her that Tom Nissen had raped other local girls and that the Shriffs Office had failed to prosecute Nissen and that at least two were in their program, so the program staff were aware of Nissen. The relevant question here is whether justice failed due to Sheriffs incompetence or because Nissen was able to intimidate his victims successfully. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. But the water was frozen, and police found the items the next day. While friends would later describe him as sweet, clean cut, and respectable, Brandon did acquire some legal troubles of his own. All of the psychological issues Teena Brandon suffered from may be common pathology of the gay and transgender, but Teenas mental illness was the result of confirmed child sexual abuse and possible incest, and one other thing. r: I need do nothing of the sort thankfully cos I live in a democracy which allows (just!) Thereafter Teena actively cooperated, helping the police find the location of the rape, which was ten miles away and out in the dark. After that murder, American jailers were no longer allowed to lock up under age prisoners with grown ups. They could have raped Lisa or another woman but they chose Brandon, specifically to humiliate her because she was trans. People do not talk about it, because they have something to hide. On top of that, Teena Brandons tragedy was shamelessly exploited to make money and everyone is waiting to be paid by the next Steven Spielberg. The sheriffs lines when interviewing Brandon after the rape(s) are appalling. The biggest problem with the PC Brigade appropriating Teena Brandon as a transgender icon is that they overlook the real person who lived and died. Yes, she became an Issue, much as Matthew Shephard did when he was murdered by two scumbags, after which far more silliness issued. She was hurt as a woman, she suffered as a woman, and her murder was a crime of violence against women. Downtown: Brandon Teena's Tragic Story. Ive seen john lotters interviews and there is no way he doesnt know right from wrong. Teena Brandon really wanted to be a soldier. Its a specific form of violence used against women. In his own mind he has forgiven Teena all her transgressions, and they were always the best of friends engaging in meaningful conversations. JoAnn received only $17,000, according to an account from writer Charles Laurence that ran in the (Ottawa) Citizens Weekly on April 2, 2000. So, you got four without special characteristics, that drew no public or media interest. He is not getting away from her! Lana : Yeah, well, you'd be cranky, too, Mister I'm Going To Memphis Graceland Tennessee, if you were stuck in a town where there's nothing to do but go bumper skiing and chase bats every night of your evil fucking life. IN MY HOME TOWN! Thanks. In August 2020, Lana suffered a new tragedy when her Ford pickup crossed a center line and fatally injured Chrysler minivan driver Glenn D. Aston in a head-on crash in Fairview, Kansas. When Lotter and Nissen found out that their recently acquired drinking buddy who was dating Lotter's former flame Lana Tisdel was actually a woman whose real name was Teena Brandon, they became enraged. RR. According to his own admission, Teena helped them to get on their feet financially and economically, when they got to Omaha, where were they, when Teena was desperately calling from Falls City to get out of there? After they raped Teena, they told her that they would murder her if she told anyone, and Teena believed them. "United States Public Records, 19702009," database, FamilySearch (May 23, 2014), Lana M Tisdel, Grant, Nebraska, United States; a third party aggregator of publicly available information. After Brandon, 21, filed sexual assault charges, Lotter and Nissen decided to kill him in a case that became the subject of the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 movie Boys Dont Cry starring Hilary Swank. The last time Lana Tisdels name came up in the press was the year 2000, when she settled a lawsuit with movie distributor Searchlight Pictures for an undisclosed sum. It had to have been Lana's mother told them where he was. ATTACK DOG PUT UPON ME, An interesting thought with someone who has an IQ of 67? If you look closely, you will see some high school level lit about the medieval knights and Christmas, a photocopied notebook, and another notebook, into which Teena is writing. The latter film, a surprise hit, helped raise awareness of the intolerance faced by people in the LGBT community. During a Christmas Eve party, Lotter and Nissen forced Teena to take off his clothes in order to show everyone, including Lana, his genitals. Let grown adults be free to do as they see fit within the constrains of mutual consent, but for the love of all that is firm enough to be solid ground dont make an untrue true because someone feels like it; already confused identities wont get any benefit from even more distortion of what actually is, and many trans people are quite happy as just that once its obvious its not a flash in the pan or knee jerk reaction to trauma, and no balanced soul should have to much to do with what is not any their business if no one is unhappy about the arrangement unless someone actually is or has been asked. Tisdel has made it clear that her relationship with Brandon Teena was brief and did not include sex; only lasting about two months from their first meeting until the murder. Teena is standing at attention. Apparently an act Teena put on for Lana. Pattern recognition and timing is the key to everything. You have no idea that this happened, not why Teena said that. Both Teena and her sister were/are running from the stigma of being economically poor, or being a part of the social underclass. Remove the big lies and pressures on the human condition, as the modern scenario is fiscal slavery to the Central banks and their agencies and all the rest, not already a mortal or moral anathema, will fall into place. Guessing your wife is with you for carnal gratification definitely not intellectually based upon your intelligent statement.. HIT BY THAT Them low life murders will have to answer to god and he awaits. They took a circuitous trip back to Falls City, so no one would see them returning from Humboldts direction. I guess for now ill settle for bookmarking and adding your RSS feed to my Google account. It just gets murkier and murkier until its a free for all like those two Australian pedophiles that were pimping out a 6 year old boy and seemed to think there was nothing wrong with it. CITIZENS! Tisdel sued the creators of the film Boys Don't Cry for using her name and likeness without permission; the suit was settled out of court. Redirecting to /celebrity/lana_tisdel/pictures She had the use of Lisa Lamberts car. Turned to savages. Everyone wanted her to move and she had no place to go, also, for many reasons, she was not the easiest person to get along with. it does not matter what his agab (assigned gender at birth) is, he identified as a man and used he/him pronouns and you need to respect that. Lotter and Nissen, portrayed by actors Peter Sarsgaard and Brendan Sexton III, were already in prison for murder by the time the movies came out. You point to another problem: the vested interest in poor performance in IQ testing post-conviction. No matter who stabbed? Lotter is capable of self-pity. Lana Tisdel testified in Court that she saw both, Teena Brandon and Tom Nissen, for the first time at the Oasis Bar, and it appears that the two were there together. now people can say or feel it was not a dangerous inversion of sexual identity but the consequences of any choice determine its nature, and she/he had a lot problems because of it including being murdered by a couple of monsters. and its from within the power structure (ie: the 2 boys in Arkansas murdered then put on the train tracks. She then became a reluctant witness, not willing to implicate Nissen and get him arrested. Nissen is scared as well, though I am not sure of what. I certainly agree that theyre appalling. Lotter and Nissen had told Teena that if he told anyone what they did, they would kill him. Everyone. Retardedness is not necessarily illness such that the perp could not reasonably discern right from wrong. But theres a movement attempting to intimidate us into annexing language, and therefore thought, to its ideology (anticipated by Orwell in 1984). Im pro trans-rights. Look at her mugshot. ), you contradict yourself. It should be mocked and rejected as deeply dangerous. Feelings do not make a round planet flat or anything essentially untrue, ie: a lie, true, but it wont stop them blurring the line; and I do feel for the victim. (Boys Dont Cry and The Brandon Teena Story). Full disclosure I dont believe in the death penalty either. So whats become of the hardscrabble, karaoke-loving Nebraska girl portrayed by actress Chlo Sevigny on the big screen? You people need to have some respect. Boys Dont Cry is a fantasy has nothing in common with real events. Apparently there is Teenas prison letter to Lana, where Teena is morosely doing time, pacing the cell and doing push ups and chin ups. CONCERNED You infer this from the groupies around the likes of Richard Ramirez, whose attractiveness to women persisted after his appalling crimes were known, and quite a few other sickos who attract women post-conviction. This was more of a contributing factor to rape than any sexual orientation issues. BEING TARGETED,FOR BEING A TRANS MAN! He moved into the home of Lisa Lambert and later started dating Lana Tisdel. Lana M. Tisdel (born May 28, 1975) is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the December 1993 murders of Brandon Teena, Phillip DeVine and Lisa Lambert was chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry (which left out DeVine). He was born a girl but cut his hair short and styled himself as a boy. 7 Unnerving Facts About the Lindberghs and the Kidnapping, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Greg Davis: Darlie Routiers No. She rearranges the order of the events for dramatic effect. But it (identity) doesnt matter, as some commentators would have it. God rest their souls. I dont care if theyve found God or are remorseful. Moved Permanently. What you tolerate, you had better be prepared to suffer. A war on drugs but they just never disappear and no one see a flaw in that? Cowboys with six guns, Gangsters with Tommy guns, gang members with their Colors on the backs of their jackets. WORK FORCE! A final thought: Id be interested to know why they saved the baby. I have to agree. You say that they could have raped anybody, maybe Lisa Lambert, but that is not how domestic violence and criminal underworld work. 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