ill be switching back to 100%street tires soon. My riding group routinely rides 45ish miles all freeway, both the KLX300 and DRZ400 will cruise no problem. I may be a noob but I bounce well. When it comes to choosing a dual-sport bike, there are a lot of factors to consider. But, wait until you ride one(I picked up my 701, for not much more, in 2018.). Ain't broke, don't fix it. XR650L is the best 50/50, but you pay for it with weight. Now, I'm back at 16/44 gearing on the same trails with far less clutch work. Nope - same same. A 2013 with 5k is lucky to bring 3500-4000 here. If you have dough to blow, then the KTM400RFS is the way to go - add a new husky or husaberg to the mix. Since used prices are approaching new prices, I'd go new. Its not as powerful as the KLX, but its still a very capable bike. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Ok, what about "charging OUT of corners?" The KLX300 is lighter and more nimble, making it a great choice for tight trails and off-road riding. Does the KLX300 really have any modern features? Any information would be helpful! I just dig the looks of the cammo KLX over the rally. If youre looking to lower your DRZ400, there are a few things you can do. When you buy through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/972833-wide-ratio-gears-but-no-six-speed/, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Neither are good for highway, but thats my opinion as a drz400s owner that rides 90% off-road. She didn't even give me crap when I got T boned by a pickup in town last year! Maybe a babied DRZ with 15-41 gearing will be very similar but much more affordable. Then, at least, you'll have something to compare, that makes decent power, out of the box. Required fields are marked *. The KLX has nearly 6k miles on it, with about 4k with the 351 kit. However, the CRF300L is a bit more agile and has a higher top speed. This post is by no means a slight on either bike. Your email address will not be published. Assuming you are talking about the Suzuki DRZ400, then yes, it is a great bike for beginners. Also I like the versatility of a 6-speed transmission as the KLX has. Very cool and thanks for the info and the review. Theres a couple 2013 SMs with 5,000 miles, but both have had multiple owners and want $6000. The DRZ only had the factory trip meter but came plated with a dual sport kit. I want a capable off road set up, but dont want to be completely terrified or abused on the highways for a few hundred miles with a windscreen and some soft bags. Out here drz-SMs are mostly owned by young guys. Which in your opinion would be the better overall bike? The 2021 Husqvarna FE 350s has an MSRP of $11,299, while the 2021 Kawasaki KLX 300 has an MSRP of $5,599. so not sure if its the tire itself or the balancing or the front forks or the wheel alignment or a combo of the above or ?. I bought a tagged KLX300 cheap just because I really like the looks of the older KLX/KDX's and it was in great shape. The DRZ is a good choice. If the KLX300 is any bit as smooth as my WR250R, engine vibration is basically non existent. Both bikes fill the same bill, it doesn't make sense to keep both. Out of interest the KLX parts on Partzilla a more cost effective than the DRZ parts - all fit of course. DRZ400sm: $7500, carburated, 5 speed. Additionally, the DRZ400 has great suspension and is very reliable. I agree, the stats are similar: KLX 33hp, 21 tq and DRZ 33hp 26tq. I prefer lighter SMs to bigger bikes ie bmws etc. The price difference is close to $3K. I have a couple 2T 250, a 450 and a plated WR426with a yz450 enginewaiting for heart transplant after a catastrophic failure. Op, is your question just what bike is more reliable? Not the sexy one. The suspension will be a lot better on the DRZ too. Justin Brayton Weighs In | PulpMX Show 540. He is also a published author. The KLX is much better geared and just chugs along in 1st gear on tight trails which the DRZ won't do as well when geared to do 55mph at cruise. It has a 10.6-inch ground clearance and a seat height of 35.4 inches. It just didn't do it for me. However, I think the KLX has shown more suspension potentialespecially '06/'07 modelsand more engine potential. Thank you KTM. It seems it is a popular question as of late. The KLX300SM has a seat height of 35.4 inches, while the DRZ400SMs seat height is 37.0 inches. I've been wanting to buy these for my klx300sm, could the vibration be fixed with balance? Yes. December 10, 2017 in DRZ400/E/S/SM. The DRZ motor will run 50-100,000 miles with maintenance. I'm leaning toward the DR-Z400 kicker. Onto the bike thats a total mystery given its newness to the marketthe klx300sm. My 2001 E has never let me down and is as solid and clean as most 2015 bikes. Which bike do you guys think would be more reliable long term? I found a pretty good deal on a 2005f650gs with really low miles. The best thing about this bike is the super helpful community! What's it like? Been looking for used ones just to see what is out there. Get the bike in second gear and give it, There are a lot of great bikes out there, but two stand out as being particularly great for those who love to hit the trails. When you buy through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission.Copyright ThumperTalk, Inc. - All rights reserved.ThumperTalk is a registered trademark. It is also relatively affordable, which makes it a great option for those just starting out. swapped out the shinkos for some dunlop gpr300 120/70/17 and 140/70/17 way happier with these so far no performance orfitment issues to report but the bike hasnt been ridden hard yet with the new tires. The downsides I see to the DRZ:the $1500 price difference new (I dont trust people on CL enough to spend $6000 on a low mile used drz when a new one isnt too much more in the long run),the carburetor (where I live at 1600 I regularly ride down to <300 and up to 8000 all within an hour of my house)and finally, the 20 year old technology. So, which one is right for you? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. ), Nope, they aren't $9000. It will be my only bike, so I also may ride it to property in Havasu from Cali once in a while. They're all made in the same factory by Suzuki during the '03-'04 alliance. By Are the wheels balanced? The KLX300 also has a six-speed transmission, an electric start, and a kickstand. Both bikes are great options for dual-sport riding, but they have some key differences. Hey guys, new to the forum, but been lurking a while. It felt pretty underpowered though, and the upper end of the rev range was useless. Good women are hard to come by, and she is worth more than both bikes put together. I do everything from Colorado singletrack to camping trips with it. Haha I'm trying to justify the extra expense. I want to be able to grow into it, keep it, and not have to upgrade. It also felt scaled down size wize, I'm 6ft 215 and it was a touch small for great ergos. I have a KLX300 and I've ridden my friends DRZ400E. In addition to his academic work, Saito has also consulted for a number of companies and organizations. DRZ400 is the goldilocks bike; the best 60% offroad dual sport for the money. Hes the second owner. Hi Squishy. (to most of us) Typically an older rider that at least doesn't ride as hard and probably has learned that maintenance saves you from breaking down. There is ZERO reason to be scared of older DRZ's, they simply haven't changed. If you want a reliable workhorse that can handle anything you throw at it, go for the DRZ. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I recently picked up a super cheap, gently used, DRZ400E 2001 model and have been adventurizing it on the cheap. I want to be able to grow into it, keep it, and not have to upgrade. Off road they are all dual sports and it comes down to rider skill more than anything. Here is hoping my 2009 KLX250 EFI will run just as long. 1 TMJRoss 2 yr. ago Plus, there seems to be more aftermarket support for the scholarly old Dr. First, you can adjust the preload on the rear shock. By continuing to browse our site you agree to our use of data and cookies. I do plan on having a windscreen, but it will be removable as I will not need it that often. Cookie Notice 2016 KTM 300EXC Sold: 2010 Husqvarna TE450 2010 Kawasaki KLX-351-BB (KLX250S with big bore kit) 2014 Beta 498RR Race Ready (Racing Edition) sporn dbw Pro Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1379 Share Tweet #3 '06 KLX250s with 351 kit installed over winter. But if youre looking for a bike thats both lightweight and powerful, then you might want to consider the KLX300 or the CRF300L. The DRZ400 is a bit more powerful and has a wider range of gears, making it better suited for open terrain. Privacy Policy. It has KX250 suspension. Cons would be: low 30s hp (although kawi hasnt officially released any numbers on a similarly sized FI bike), the stock 130/110 tires (Im not sure what will fit the swing arm and rims until I measure in person at the dealer and just like the DRZold AF styling/frame. ). It's the old motor with FI. Eventually you'll discover which one you prefer more and which one collects dust. She doesn't care either, if we're not going broke, Hell yeah! Plus they are 50 state street legal. I doubt it has more than 1,500. miles on it honestly. Maybe just open it up on either end and rejet. OP didn't say that. Suzuki has refused to do anything to DRZ in 20 years b/c the moment they touch more than plastics color they're going to lose their EPA grandfathering and will have to spend a ton of $$ on the program. What say yall? Or is it better to stick with the old school dual sports?Merch. If you want a powerful bike thats fun to ride, go for the KLX. Would you like to ride with me or rent with me? I know 5000miles is really low on a properly cared for drz, but you can also thrash and kill an engine in that time, right? Eventually, I learned to carry more speed and keep my feet on the pegs to allow the suspension to do the work. I randomly bought the DRZ to flip and just liked it. Thanks for your update! $3k isnt worth the minor difference in performance. October 15, 2019 in DRZ400/E/S/SM. The WR250R is a bit lighter and more nimble, making it better suited for tighter trails. Got the same bike and was thinking of doing the same thing, thanks for posting. In your opinion, do you think the KLX is worth the extra $3K? His research and development work at the University of Kentucky has led to advances in the field, and his publications have brought new understanding to the field. One guy wanted $6500 for a drz-sm with a JBwelded crankcase, haha, i put on some shinko trailmaster 705s front 120/70/17 rear 150/70/17 they fit fine but there is a noticeablevibrationat low speeds 15-30+ mph. Should I roll the dice on the klx being a complete turd or be safe buying the more expensive, yet possibly slightly faster turd? It's the safe, reliable choice. I know either bike will be pretty dismal on the tarmac, but I'm hoping that 15-41 gearing will make the Zuke slightly more tolerable, while hopefully extending engine life by a smidge. Kozo Saito is a mechanical engineer who is currently the Tennessee Valley Authority Professor in Mechanical Engineering and also the Director of the Institute of Research for Technology Development at the University of Kentucky. My 2001 E has never let me down and is as solid and clean as most 2015 bikes. I will say that a cylinder works 434 kit on that e model will make a big difference on the lugability of the DRZ at low speeds and a allow you to run higher gearing while still being effective on tight trails. Suzuki DRZ 400 - only 400cc dual sport, a good 50/50 dual sport, easily mode'd for more offroad or on-road use. JMTC. Hi GSC. Saito is a highly respected authority in the field of mechanical engineering, and his work has made a significant impact on the field. It seems it is a popular question as of late. 2021 KLX300s vs. DRZ400s - YouTube 0:00 / 18:57 2021 KLX300s vs. DRZ400s 49,337 views May 2, 2021 744 Dislike Share Save KC Outside 1.84K subscribers Putting the bikes head to head, see. I wish I could. I passed on the beemer. Well, the KLX300 is a bit lighter and more powerful than the CRF300L. Im looking for some input please. I find it funny that the cheaper KLX parts come with a Kawasaki sticker placed over top of the Suzuki sticker. Sure the Drz is 20 pounds heavier, but it is almost twice the power. Some features of this site require JavaScript. Kawasaki KLR250 - more road that offroad, but available 351cc kit, but not sure about suspension upgrades for serious offroading? I had a tagged DRZ E as my main badazz dual sport bike. I agree, 3k is quite a chunk for similar performance. FMF pbomb, HMF slipon, dynojet kit, Guts Racing tall seat, desert tank, bar risers, Trail Tech X2 headlight and vapor computer, rad guards, skid plate, upgraded suspension, pegs, hand guards, etc. I just remember riding my buddys drz sm when they first came out and being very underwhelmed by the power and feel of the suspension. Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Trident450, Aug 2, 2015. I doubt it has more than 1,500. miles on it honestly. KLX300sm: $6000, fuel injected, 6 speed. The KLX and the DRZ were offered at identical prices. Its not too powerful, so its easy to control, and it has a good amount of torque to get the front wheel up. Nope - same same. Breaking In Our New Backyard! Scan this QR code to download the app now. SuperAwesomeDOOD, A sub all about riding dual sports or dual sporting rides. It was hard to sell the DRZ, but I did and set the KLX up for me. The KLX is much better geared and just chugs along in 1st gear on tight trails which the DRZ won't do as well when geared to do 55mph at cruise. The trans just feels better from a gearing perspective. They really went budget minded on the klx suspension. Way to go, Ricky. First owner tipped it over in his driveway and broke his leg. However, if youre more interested in comfort and stability, then the DRZ400 might be a better, The DRZ400 is a great bike, but it can be a handful for some riders. The KLX300 is a newer bike, and it shows. I want to do the Colorado BDR next year and put about 4K miles on the bike a year. Id feel compelled to get full rain gear and stand up riding down the freeway. The WR250R also has, Your email address will not be published. #242 shrubitup and NC Rick like this. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Press J to jump to the feed. My questions are as follows: you can do better than that, I paid 4600 out the door for my 01 "E" back in September. Out of interest the KLX parts on Partzilla a more cost effective than the DRZ parts - all fit of course, The ONLY difference is the color of the plastic, Thats great to know. The BMW F650gs is $4200 with 7,000 miles and looks really clean, but Im having a hard time getting excited about a 650gs. Hi Kuyajon! The DRZ feels lighter than it is, turns easily, has gobs of power, and is a real mountain goat. Just curious, but why rule out the Honda 300 rally? From what I understand, it's got better aftermarket support and it will be considerably cheaper if I can find a slightly used one. By No, I mean I paid a TOTAL of 4600. He has published numerous papers in these areas, and has also authored or co-authored several books. Im pretty set on it now. 2002! The drz sounds like you're wringing its neck at highway speed. The stats say 33 HP and 21 lb-ft of torque for KLX and DRZ400 33 hp 26 torque. Hi Ben. The dealer is at $7500 plus assembly, delivery, tax, etc Ill be at $9000. It is powered by a 398 cc (24.1 cu in), liquid-cooled, single-cylinder, DOHC, four-stroke engine. The KLX 300 has a dry weight of 102 kg and a wet weight of 112 kg. The KLX 300 is a dual-sport motorcycle that was introduced in 1997. Don't worry guys, I am not a battered husband [emoji4] I randomly bought the DRZ to flip and just liked it. Kozo Saitos work has helped shape the field of mechanical engineering. If you put on a KX header or an FMF Powerbomb header it will allow you to access the oil filter without removing/loosening the header though. It's a known fact that the KLX is faster than the DRZ because it's green. Im afraid of the damage a young guy can do in 5000 miles. We use cookies to improve your experience on this website and so that ads you see online can be tailored to your online browsing interests. In your case it sounds like you have a bike that meets your needs already. And you'll inevitably come to the conclusion that the KLX is better! I'm a big fan of honda XR's, so I definitely feel ya. DRZ is better for canyon carving and frwy. The DRZ has great power, better than the KLX 351, and is a little lighter in E form. Both of these bikes are great for both on and off-road riding. I would go with the more modern, fuel injected machine if it were me. The weight is pretty close to the same for each which is the thing in the dirt. I have a KLX300 and I've ridden my friends DRZ400E. But, you DO want something to charge into corners with. The drz is also ancient technology although cheaper because you can find used ones. Both were set up with common jetting and perfomance mods. Unless you mod it, beyond intake/exhaust & fueling. Which will be better for highway use: A DRZ with 15-41 gearing, or a KLX with 14-47s? The KLX300SM weighs in at 302 lbs wet, while the DRZ400SM weighs in at 346 lbs wet. What will it be like with say 14/47? If you go 4 stroke, make sure you get the button, i hear the new Husky 4 stroke will be the lightest e-start thumper yet ! Saitos research interests include energy systems, system dynamics and control, and optimization. A 2013 with 5k is lucky to bring 3500-4000 here. Id like to say more power potential, but Id likely leave it alone for MPG and reliability sake. March 5, 2021 in SuperMoto. The KLX 300 is capable of reaching a top speed of 160 km/h. What was posted was "told the wife I'd sell one". :D. Whichever is the cheaper. Try to get a test ride on each one and see what you think. Hey all. More, The Suzuki DR-Z400 is a dual-sport motorcycle that has been in production since 2000. That's some excellent reliability you got there. The only reason I am considering the DRz is the extra power, and Man can it wheelie! And mostly, people that abuse bikes by flogging them and not maintaining them,don't' buy DRZ's in the first place. Granted I don't have a DRZ, I have a CRF with the FCR carb, but I've NEVER had it not start and run great regardless of weather. Would I be disappointed in its flickability? My DRZ had a Yoshimura 450cc kit, full yoshi exhaust, JD jetting etc. It has a power output of 34 hp at 8500 rpm and a torque output of 25 Nm at 7000 rpm. The WR couldn't haul it, so the KLX did. Im in the market for a reliable, fun SM. Its also better equipped, with a stronger frame and better suspension. I used to own one. what are the differences between the drz 400 and the klx 400. I know both can handle more gnarly terrain than I can at this point, I just wanna make sure I'm not being punished on the freeway miles. The DRZ400, on the other hand, is a tried and tested machine. Thanks for your reply. It has a six-speed transmission and weighs in at about 315 pounds. lalahg. So, which one is better? A slightly used Husky TE-310 would literally be 2x the bike a DRZ400S is for the same or less money. Does the KLX300 really have any modern features? It depends on what youre looking for. I choose a 400 EXC and it is like night and day. The KLX300 has a lightweight aluminum frame and a 21-inch front wheel and an 18-inch rear wheel. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It is my first bike and I have it set up as a light weight ADV bike. The KLX300R is powered by a 293cc four-stroke engine. Or is it better to stick with the old school dual sports?Merch:https://teespring.com/stores/jhmotorclubStay Up to Date:Instagram: JHMotorClubMy brother's channel, JH Motorsport: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyb3BeWc-JgLw_CumJka7dQChapters:Intro: 0:00WR250R and DRZ400 Overview, what we know about the KLX300: 0:48First Swap onto the WR250R: 2:42First Impressions of the DRZ400: 4:37Talking KLX300 vs. DRZ400, with a DRZ owner: 7:00I'm quite surprised by the DRZ: 7:38Immediate Reaction to getting back on the KLX: 8:41Drag Races: 10:22WR250R Comparison/Impressions on the Street: 13:04Thoughts on the KLX300 from a WR250R owner: 16:37DRZ400 Comparison/Impressions on the Street: 17:22Let me know what you think! It looks barely used, and the front MT21 has a manufacture date of 2002! Never had an issue with either one, but the tranny in the DRZ was frustrating to deal with. The KLX300 weighs in at 298 pounds and has a fuel capacity of 2.6 gallons. My prayers were answered! Kozo Saito. Heres a closer look at the Kawasaki KLX300 vs the Suzuki DR650: ). But I always noticed the extra horsepower and torque. We use data about you for a number of purposes explained in the links below. It has a seat height of 835 mm and a fuel capacity of 11 litres. What would you do? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Which bike do you guys think would be more reliable long term? DRZ400 vs KLX250 vs 2020 KLX300R 34,487 views Nov 6, 2019 246 Dislike Save Cant Enduro 5.6K subscribers Would you like to ride with me or rent with me? She didn't even give me crap when I got T boned by a pickup in town last year! Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by rickypanecatyl, Feb 11, 2014. While DRZ isnt, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. I'm a big fan of honda XR's, so I definitely feel ya. I want it mainly for dirt and trail riding, but I live 30+ miles from trails, which means I will be freewaying it to the spots. That 4299 at Chaparral ends up costing you closer to 5 by the time you get it in your truck. (That, and they come with a 2-year/24,000 mile factory warranty. and our Try to get a test ride on each one and see what you think. Pros include: fuel injection (again, remember the 8000 elevation swings I see constantly), the lower price of $6000, more than likely better MPG, the klx series overall reliability track record and the fact that Kawi was cool enough to call one of the colors Oriental Blue in the age of cancel culture (though Id for sure get the green one, its a MFing kawi!). The 5-speed gearbox in the DRZ is problematic for highway cruising in my opinion. The stats say 33 HP and 21 lb-ft of torque for KLX and DRZ400 33 hp 26 torque. Oh and Kawasaki parts are less expensive than Suzuki. The price difference is close to $3K. I struggled with the same thing when I bought my drz new in 06. Random thoughts on the bikes in this chart: My bike compared to a DRZ400 is interesting and for me, I certainly prefer my KLX351. The DRZ motor will run 50-100,000 miles with maintenance. Ive narrowed my search down to the new klx300sm and the drz400sm. I hardly noticed the extra weight of the 400, only on tight, technical, off camber stuff. Its powered by a 650cc four-stroke engine that produces 47 horsepower. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. This will lower the bike by a few inches. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Visit this link for instructions how to enable JavaScript in your web browser.
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