The odd thing is the boat is camouflage from the factory. I believe this will be . We bought it at Battenkill Canoe in Arlington Vermont in September of 1997. Kevlar Fusion and carbon are composite renditions of the Explorer. The spacious 167 is versatile and stable, with more speed and storage for longer trips on bigger water. There is nothing wrong with fiberglass. 3/4 . At 61 lbs it falls oddly in between the listed weights for Fiberglass (67 lbs) and Kevlar (55 lbs). I did get some info from tech support in the form of a '94 catalog. We've reincarnated Jim Henry's original benchmark design, the standard for versatile performance, with the all new rugged and abuse ready T-formex material. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Light canoes are a beautiful thing. A UV-resistant coating provides additional sunprotection. On our most recent trip we did 120km/75mi in 6.5 days of moving. Whether you're interested in canoe touring, tripping or an afternoon of fishing, getting YOU time is as easy as ever. Another document states that only the gunnels need to be oiled (as apposed to varnish) as they flex but further reading suggests Gunwale Guard be used on carry handles, decks, and seat spacers. Mad Rivers archive list tells what years each of the models were produced but that only narrows down the options to the canoes manufactured in 1997(of which there are several) but doesnt get us to our specific model. Hi Rob, My Mad River Canoe serial # is MAD AX988G798. CL. 3) This one may be a bit of a stretch butFor the KH build, the layer just beneath the outer gelcoat states it is "S Glass" and when I search images for S Glass I see photos of weaves just like what I see with my boat. Canoes from companies that have been around for decades, like Mad River, will periodically make their way onto used listings. Manufactured mid 1990's. I bet he'd take $500. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. About 67lbsThe Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. $50 cash Mad River's Adventure is their recreational canoe, and it's available in two sizes, 14 and 16 feet. The cboats discussion speaks of kevlar airex boats having a raised football-shape on the floor which this doessort of. Thanks, If the Hull Identification Number on the stern ends in a K it is kevlar, and a boat weight will tell you the rest. For the prior weight attempt I simply held the canoe on my haunches but in thinking over this method I can imagine how that arrangement could've registered a lighter weight given I was somewhat off balance. Should not be in the 90's this time of the year in MN however it didn't help that I had my kiln running in the workshop yesterday which went past 2,000F. I like the sundowner a lot for a daycruiser, but the sunrunner would be my choice because its around 55lbs as opposed to the downers 65lbs. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. I will go cyber shopping sometime soon. You are using an out of date browser. Your boat is stunning and you must be right about the ash as I paid attention to the weight of the yoke yesterday and too light to be oak. This thread mentions the HIN online directory which I went to and learned that my canoe is likely a 1985 production model Explorer 5021 My question for the experts on this forum is, what is a 5021?? Only the SR921 is not strictly defined by the coast guard. Its green Royalex with wood gunnels, cane insert seats and is 16 feet long. The yoke certainly looks like oak. If you can measure your boat, I can look at the catalog and tell u what model. You must be right that the seat spacers are leftover gunwale stock as they measure identical with a caliper. Best, Hello fellow paddlers. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mad Rivers canoes range in weight depending on the materials used to build them. Completely agreed that plastic end caps are hokey however very practical if this thing will be used as a tripper. Could the raised floor be something other than Airex? abwoolsey June 20, 2020, 10:45pm #13. Last week I did contact Confluence/MR tech support for PDFs of MR catalogs from '95 - 2000 as I already had the '94. I suspect the "KA" denotes a Kevlar/Airex Explorer model which MRC produced 1983-1995. I recommend the stuff with the green and white label or the teak oil. Explains the varnish-vs-oil question. reserved. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Also the hanger bolts are all bent just so as to make everything hang perfect & tight. Best for leisurely excursions on smallish lakes and ponds, bad for whitewater In reality the thing is a bit too pretty for me to drag across beaver dams or portage through downfall. by owner + boats - by owner . Malecite KL 1993-2001 Sunrunner FG 1994-1997 Malecite Special Edition 2001 Sunrunner KE 1994-1996. If Im reading this right, youre looking for: tandem canoe also usable as occasional solo to fish, mostly lake and pond, no whitewater, no camping. Or did you mean the width of the boat from gunnel to gunnel where the seats are currently located? Not all canoes are built equal. New ash inwales/gunnels, decks, new webbed seats, buffed the hull. Re: Does anybody know how to decipher mad river serial numbers. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Thank you for your consideration. Make There is little worry about capsizing in calm conditions with the Adventure's wide, flat hull. 17 feet 2 inch long. The best way to know if a canoe is right for you is to give it a try. The seat hanger pegs do look different at first glance however I believe them to be the same wood as the seat frames, just not varnished. Wenonah - Sundowner - 18 foot fiberglass (red) and looks to have an adjustable front seat. Does anyone know if I could use a heat gun (oh-so-carefully) to remove the remaining license sticker from the bow? If youre eager to get on the water, then prepare to pay a bit more in the summertime. Shallow vee hulls have a unique feel in the water and they typically carve turns very gracefully. You should buy the other boat too. From what I have read about varnish vs oil it makes sense that oil be used on components that flex as varnish is rigid and develops hairline fractures that over time allow water in. JavaScript is disabled. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=929356. One last twistThe '97 catalog has nice exploded assembly illustrations of the lay-ups and in simply looking at the boat I would think it most resembles the KH build for three reasons. This route seems most consistent with original. Like the Adventure, the Journey is made with three-layer polyethylene. No wood rot. Tracks beautifully Hope you can get it. Fully featured and loaded with amenities, they're also very stable and paddle quite efficien. Having the weight directly above the scale is more sensible. It's green Royalex with wood gunnels, cane insert seats and is 16 feet long. 1) The FC (Fiberglass Cloth) build does not show the floor being painted with "Protective Surface Paint" like all three of the Kevlar builds do. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe . 3/8 . I just found one error in the "Boats By Year" PDF as it states the only KL Sunrunner was in '94 however all catalogs (94-97) list the KL version. Maine-based Old Town is one of Americas original canoe manufacturers. It might stand for an Airex foam core hybrid but that is only a guess. Mine has paint. If replacing Contour or Bucket seats, order from our Canoe Seats link on the Home Page, as they are also manufactured for Mad River Canoe at our specs. About 67lbsThe Sunrunner was 16' Mad River Explorer Canoe $400 oboRoyalex Hull Solid Mahogony Trim & Seats20 Years Old - Used about twice every summer need to sell to free up garage space Just in time for ski to sea competition paddle and two life jacketsHas condition issues, not pretty! Id lean towards the Camper for you and suggest that you and your wife try loading it to make sure youre comfy with the weight. These Mad River canoes are designed for recreational paddling and touring, and different material options land at differentprices. Designed my Mad River founder Jim Henry, and built with a "Kevlar 49" layup, she is both strong and light at 65lbs. Perhaps some solo with fishing in mind but again on small ponds and lakes. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Introducing the new Explorer 16. Thanks, Pip. If youre keen on a solo canoe shorter than 12 feet or a canoe for less than $1,500, consider an Old Town. View our answers to common questions below. I tried contacting MRC but havent gotten a reply yet (2 Weeks). KE boats are not listed till the 2000 catalog so am wondering if marketing came up with that name to sexy-up the standard KV build?? Try as she might, shes never gotten comfortable with the traditional tippy canoe feeling, despite my explaining why that can actually be a good thing. I'll be interested in what you find out when you get out of the phone queue. Just FYI in case you didnt know Royalex boats are no longer made and the replacement (T-Formex) is heavier and a new T-Formex tandem may cost $2000 so you really got a gem thats worth more than you paid. Would be nice to get some glamor shots prior to mucking it up with a bright red sticker. See photo. id of old Mad river canoeI came for a similar reason trying to find the exact material of my MADEX135E787 OT Camper 15 As of yesterday I had convinced myself this was a kevlar boat judging by how the weight felt as I shouldered it a number of times and put it on the truck. I am looking at some craiglist canoes this weekend. We want to replace the original seats with ash/webbing seats as the cane is badly broken in both seats. The winters are long here and the state owes me a property tax refund so??? You must log in or register to reply here. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe Yes, definitely having fun with this current obsession. Planned to take it outside for some glamor shots but this weekend has been absurdly hot and humid. http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=929356 Im tempted to pop over from SW Michigan to buy it just on principle. 1) Anyone know where I could get the polypropylene, molded end caps, touch-up gellcoat, or even new-old-stock contoured seats?? If you prefer kneeling when you paddle, make sure that your feet fit comfortably underneath the bench seats. I like the stability of the Explorer but also the deep red color - although chocolate sounds good. That matters in your situation, more than the seats, gunwales, or design of the canoe. thx. ~wetzool. You must log in or register to reply here. Old Town - Camper 15 from 1996 (an aqua color that the wife thinks is great) and a Discovery 174 - I think the camper will be lighter and easier to load and unload. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. Timeless and Rugged. I do not know what the "A" represents. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. 4/10 . You will like it. ButI can envision it with the seat components, thwart, & yoke matching the gunwales. Scratches on the bottom but looks taken care of - asking $1,200. Timeless and Rugged. No ribs however. Thanks for the great help. Id suggest youd be best off with flat web/cane seats than molded uni-directional seats so you can paddle solo from the bow seat facing backwards to bring your solo paddler weight closer to the middle of the canoe. With regular webbed seats the (symmetric) Camper can be paddled backwards from the bow seat for solo use. In rough water a more rounded hull is better. 17 isnt too long or short, can carry a decent load, has a little rocker for streams, gel coated Kevlar is an ideal layup - light but semi durable (much more so than skincoat Kevlar at least). This gives the Journey and Explorer more secondary stability, which helps the canoe recover if its on its edge in more dynamic water. New listings: mad river canoe - $750 (GORE), 17 FOOT Mad River ME Solo Whitewater Canoe - $750 (Albuquerque) Top picks: Best Mad River canoes for 2023, Alabama Mountain Lakes Tourist Association, The Great Canadian Kayak Challenge & Festival, Best Canoe Brands For Tripping, Whitewater, Fishing & More, Tripping Canoe Review: Mad River Expedition 176, Mad River Malecite Ultralite Canoe Review, Survive Just About Anything On Your Next Paddling Trip. If the boat has been sitting they are likely to be very dry and tear the first time you sit on them. This one. You can find some information about discontinued Mad River canoe models on their website. Find Mad River in Boats For Sale. Weve included advice for buying new and used canoes, as well as links to the canoes currently on the market, as listed in our Paddling Buyers Guide. Looks like a beautiful canoe. Enjoy! If Im reading this right could this be the 9th production model of the first Kevlar Canoes commercially made? Mad River canoes manufacturing location depends on the material. They are now up on the MRC website under archived catalogs. I'll look for into some of the most recent dimension questions later this week and get back to every one. If anyone has information, please share. Their hulls have a rounder, shallow-arch shape, in contrast to the flatter bottom of the Adventure. The other numbers just represent production run stuff that does nothing for identifying the specifics of the canoe. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Looking for discontinued models or older catalogs? Paddlesports participation is booming, driving the demand for outdoor equipment, whether its new or used. Thanks for buying that boat. They stockmany canoe parts and are knowledgeable about Mad River Canoes. No wood rot. KE boats are not listed till the 2000 catalog so am wondering if marketing came up with that name to sexy-up the standard KV build?? We are looking for general use mostly lake, pond or get onto the Wisconsin river flowage and paddle around and fish. and was too advaced for the average paddler. Awesome progress and enthusiasm Micah! Thank you for the comments. Its an all-around canoe, suited for most uses. No doubt it is well made but being mid 40's forces me to consider weight. Scratches on the bottom but looks taken care of - asking $1,200. 3/4 . Someone here might know at a glance if this is glass as I too am suspecting. You may still find some of last years models in shops, and decades worth of canoes on the used market. The three brands are Old Town, Wenonah and Mad River that would fit our needs. Canoe Mad River Explorer. It may not display this or other websites correctly. New listings: Canoe - Mad River Screamer - $620 (Jamestown), Mad River Lamoile Canoe - $1 000 (Hogwaller) My first post here and the main reason for joining. You can easily change out the seats. BTW, I use the term geek quite fondly! Canadian Customers - we currently ship parts to the Continental United States only - if you need a replacement part, please contact your local Mad River Canoe dealer who can order the part for you. That looks like a great option. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17`2 touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Figured this was good as anything even if the scale is off 5 lbs being the weight difference should be more-or-less accurate. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. If I again come up with 60 lbs then who knows. Since used on gunwales this product must've been an oil so my guess is the seat spacers have just weathered differently than the seat frames, yoke, & thwart as the FAQ states those items were spar varnished. The Pathfinder is $650. The boat is 16 long. Recently picked this beauty up for a song and trying to find out more about it as I could locate only one post from the all-knowing google. heres a thead from the archives: If you come across an MRC for sale, email me the Ser # and I'll tell you everything I can (so long as it's a pre 2000 #). Try (carefully) sitting in it while the canoe is resting on grass. Mad River Malecite, Bought 1994, used little, includes 2 wood paddles, mats, block for car top carrying. Still on the fence with what to do Micah, you should keep it and use it! All of the boats will work for you. I bought the boat in 1976. Edscanoe.com is a good source. Its in pretty good shape except for the need for some gelcoat repair and the need to replace the gunwale. I am going to put it all back together today so will send a "finished" photo out later. I plan to dark stain the gunwales and decks and then Exterior Watco them unless they still make Gunwale Guard. Restoring a Mad River Malecite fiberglass canoe in my basement. Do not email or textyou MUST call 410 610 5653, 2005 Hand Made, Custom Built, Wood Strip Modified Adirondack Guide Boat. Much tougher than I was in my 20's but definitely not stronger. 4/13 . Mad River Sunrunner Canoe Asking 1250.00 Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Congrats on your new boat! I agree with the comment that it would be worth adding regular webbed seats. Can you please help me with identifying our canoes model? We bought it at Battenkill Canoe in Arlington Vermont in September of 1997. Home run. When I redid the cane on a boat recently I used a kit from Ed's which is a bit pricey but worked great, the wedges were helpful. If you cant find a kevlar canoe you like, then buy a fiberglass one that is not too big. The T-Formex Explorer is a bit lighter at 77 pounds. by pblanc Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:59 pm, Post There is room for it to be longer so maybe I will start with that and go from there. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Unless youre prepared for a hefty shipping fee, be wary of buying large items like Mad River canoes off eBay or other international auction sites. Improper care can cause them to warp or break. SmartMarineGuide New York, NY - All rights I think they are around 55 pounds. I would also consider other manufacturers with wood gunwales if equal to the Explorer - Penobscot? Essential information like specifications, prices and places to buy them is displayed in a standard format, so you dont need to jump from one website to another. The one I have is an Explorer Royalex with wood gunwales and deep red (chianti?) The Sunrunner was just a weird design that almost nobody likes, the Destiny is just blah when compared with the Northwind that Bell has, and the Sunrunner and Spirit that . Also, FYI I just sent Confluence scans of my 1976 and 1977 MRC catalogs which I recently located. You can also target your search in specialized pages, like MEC Gearswap or a local paddling clubs used boat listings. Full Details *MSRP: $999 USD / $1,269 CAD Specifications Length: 16' / 488 cm Max Capacity: 950 lbs. 3/4 . These are reliable canoes for beginner and intermediate paddlers. You should be able to tell if this is the case as there will be a visible roughly football-shaped raised area on the hull bottom where the Airex foam bottom core is and the raised contour of around 7 side ribs extending from that up to the gunwale line. Camper is a similar but better choice. Its available in two sizes, 16.5 and 15.5 feet. . It was conceived as a replacement for Royalex, long considered the gold standard for bombproof canoes. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in . You might let the ends of your handles, thwarts, and drops soak in oil overnightonce in their lifetime, and I'd drip some oil down those drops. Here, youll find all the Mad River canoes on the market, as well as canoes built by other companies. and the Old Town Camper - 15 and 36" wide - the only photo in the ad, Im sure youll receive several opinions on these models and Im happy to add my two cents. I will let you know the number. Sunrunner. post. If youre ready to start shopping, follow the links below to view Mad River canoes in our Paddling Buyers Guide. All the performance of the Adventure 16, with added stability and ease of handling on and off the water. As for the finished look, I am satisfied with the colors as the gunwales now match the seat cane and check out the paddle (came with the package deal if you can believe it) it all goes together. Use the filters below to view the canoes by type, material, size or store. 3/26 . If you find a Mad River canoe not currently listed on its website, you can get more information about the model by looking through the companys archived catalogs. for sale. Mad River Sunrunner - Kevlar with cane seats and wood gunwales and is a 1998. Asking $700 for it. 2015. Wenona Sundowner is a nice model from a respected brand. columbia, MO boats - by owner "canoes" - craigslist. Does that mean it is a 1993? ); Old Town is 1996 and the Wenonah is from 1991. They are just too perfect to have been replaced and this thing has had virtually no use. Just FYI my favorite home brew is 1/3 boiled linseed oil, 1/3 mineral spirits, 1/3 distilled white vinegar and this was once sold as Gunnel Lotion is a local canoe shop. My wife loves the Camper because its initial stability is so good. A glass boat is unlikely to weigh 6 lbs less than specs, and a Kevlar lay up might well weigh 6 lbs more than spec, especially a Kevlar Expedition model. The versatile canoe for getting started; great for sportsmen and families, the Adventure 16 is an amazing value. All of our kevlar Mad River canoes, a Monarch, a Malecite and an Explorer, have HINs ending in K. I was curious about the various MRC listings for kevlar hybrid/PVC/Airex composite layups in the Sunrunner and other models and looked through some old catalogs for explanation. The T-Formex Remake. For day trips a 16 foot canoe is fine, maybe even 15 feet. Like Mad River, they are extremely affordable. Manufactured mid 1990's17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. While firsthand experience is the best way to fully realize a canoes performance, expert reviews are the next best way. Hey Micah, I suggest that you put some oil on the cane seats immediately. Congrats! The Sunrunner could handle any kind of weather. No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bowstern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. The boat is Kevlar for sure. Its light for a Royalex boat at 57 pounds if the manufacturer specs can be trusted. Could be good that you didn't find the green and white label Watco since that takes about a month or two to dryI've found the Teak Oil is a nice compromise and dries thoroughly in a day or two. If the present era of supply chain delays and booming interest in paddlesports has taught us anything, its that used canoes are nearly impossible to find in the summer. As we get older weight matters. No wood rot. The mighty Rabbit was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. Since the change, all the # tells someone is month and year. Has anybody ever seen a camo Kevlar boat? With similarly nice weather the last few days I am really starting. Is Watco considered an oil? http://myccr.com/phpbbforum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=40923, http://www.edscanoe.com/doityourself.html, https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Precis70_&dpSrc=srch, Algonquin Park 2021: Tim Lake - Nipissing River - Magnetawan Lake Loop, Cooper Pond - The Hard Way (North Maine Woods), Algonquin Park May 2019: Kiosk to Birchcliffe Cabin Loop. I bet the scale lies to them too. This canoe is a one-owner, and has been garage kept. no favorites. They were all nice boats, just never caught on out West. Theyve been in business for more than 100 years, and today they tailor their canoes to recreational paddlers. Like LabsYoure picking a boat like some folks select Labs; I ant a Chocolate Lab. That often results in a poor dog, as color is a poor first determinate. It turns out the Sunrunner is a great b I don't blame you a bit for going after that other boat since it looks to be a fine boat at a great price. Am also going to put out the feelers for more MR boats of this vintage in hopes of scoring another as MN is a good place for this and I have an untapped, affluent source in mind. Around 1999 or 2000 the Coast Guard made Mad River change the way serial numbers were produced. thanks for any info. No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. by sbroam Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:01 pm, Post Enjoy Dave Yost designed boats are a joy to paddle. Butthe '94 Sunrunner were dark stained as standard prior to the finish coat of either Gunwale Guard or Watco exterior. - Last Updated: May-03-08 8:58 AM EST -. Youd also need to add a kneeling thwart or center seat so the weight would probably end up around same as the Camper. 1981 Mad River Canoe T.W. Pip. 3/17 . Many models have been phased in and out through the years, and recently theyve focused on three canoe models: the Adventure, Explorer and Journey. Don't know of any manufacturer who uses a k for kevlar. Tomorrow I will pick up a different scale & hopefully put this to rest. Throwback to 2 years ago when we took our new-to-us Sunrunner on its first voyage in a somewhat sad (but up and coming) urban river. It also looks like perfect paddling weather today. by openboat Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:01 pm, Post Thanks Grumpus. It sounds silly, but a light boat gets used more And just looking at the specs of the sunrunner it sounds like a well handling boat.
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