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Zone 6 (Toronto). To prevent any leaks make sure the gaskets are solid and the screws are tight. Then you can install the side strips, working from the bottom towards the top. When the pool is full, install the faceplates and gaskets very tightly with a proper size screwdriver. Gas powered trash pumps can pass solids up to 1 in size. Get the last bit with a mop and bucket, large sponge, a shop vac or your cover pump. Be careful to keep sand out of the main drain ring and cover screw holes. Five or ten gallons spilled wont hurt the floor of the pool, but dont remove the floor of the liner with inches of water still left in the hopper. You may have measures available from a previous liner order, or you can probably dig up the original spec sheet which shows the length, width, depth and radius of the corners. If there is too much water on top of a wrinkle, say more than a foot, it can be harder to pull them out. Most average size pools will fill from the hose(s) in 36-72 hours. Typically, the Kand Imeasures are the same, but dont assume, they can be different. Leaving your pool empty for very long could damage the pool walls or floor, if freak weather and floods move in before you have a chance to refill the pool. Dont use an electric drill, if you drop it in the pool, you could die! You can also disassemble light and tape light shell inside of light opening. Leave 3-4 feet of cord coiled up inside the light niche, to be able to pull the light out for future repair. 99% of liner failures are caused by pool chemistry or Acts of God. The most durable would be the thicker liners, of 25-ga or 30-ga thickness. how to install new stair seal does it go on outside or in ? In some cases, you may need to unset and reset the pool liner several times before you get it set without wrinkles. From a Hydrant:In some small towns, if you have a fire hydrant close to your house, you can contact your fire department for a permit to use the fire hydrant to fill your pool. For the deep end depth (C), run a tight string (or flexible measuring tape) across the deep end, on the edge of the hopper and use a pool pole, or other long pole, placed into the corner of the hopper. I purchased a semi-in-ground pool which will be buried half in-ground. I seen in a video to tape cardboard over one of the skimmers and insert the hose there do you recommend that practice? Check your local govt. Most patterns have a mottled pattern, to help hide dirt and mask wrinkles or imperfections. Some inground pools can drain most of the water out of the pool from the main drains, using the filter pump. As you go, Measure carefully from the track to the floor, all around the pool, to be sure that the pool depth will match the ordered liner wall height, consistently around the pool. If the liner is in OK shape then go for it, pulling the liner out of the way, re-trowel the floor, and then re-set the liner with a strong vacuum. cord, to not trip the breaker. If your steel walls are rusty, or to just add a soft feel to your walls, 1/8 thick wall foam is added to the walls before you install the new liner. However! With just a few inches of water in the hopper bottom, measurement form for an inground pool liner, Inground Pool Construction and Groundwater Issues, Raising Pool Equipment for Flood Protection, Flooded Inground Pool: 10-Steps to Recovery. Returns have a permanent rubber gasket, like a step section, but also use a gasket on top of the liner. If you have a main drain, you will need to install the faceplate ring and the lid at this point, after the liner is set. Darker swirl patterns will hide wall and floor imperfections more than light blue liners. Give the floor of the pool one last inspection for anything that might have blown in the pool. If you have any areas that are cracked or broken, Super Glue makes a quick repair. A clip board and pencil to write down the pool measurements. Run an extension cord to a nearby outlet. But only if the liner is young, and still pliable enough. Turn the vac back on and you should have most wrinkles removed. Then cut vertically from the floor, up thru the top bead in several spots around the pool. There are several great liner manufacturers in the states, and lots of good vinyl comes from Canada some well known liner companies are Pen-Fab, McEwen, Tara, GLI and Swimline. Be sure to tighten down the screws very tight, until you hear the plastic begin to creak. Hi, been there before! It has white clips in specific increments around it. When you have completed the wall prep and you have checked the weather to be certain that you can continue from this point to completion, we can begin to remove the liner from the pool floor. But I have no deep end,so how do I know how to line up the liner correctly, because on a lagoon style pool the walls curve in and out, and I see nothing on the new liner that shows what goes where. Hi Tracy, not normal, but not uncommon. Liner warranties typically cover seam or bead separation, but wont cover punctures, or sun or chemical deterioration. A large flat sign, or cardboard sheet can be used. They may need to lower the water level a foot or two, to be able to get enough stretch, to pull the liner back into the track, and may use some heat on the vinyl, for the same reason. Hows it Hanging? Without water in the pool, be gentle on the step section, it could crack. You need all of the screws if missing one, find a factory replacement fast. If the liner looks loose or is wrinkled, pull up on it, or push out on it. Vinyl pool light niche gaskets are found in the category of light niche parts. The purpose is to grab the liner off of the shallow end floor, and pull it towards the shallow end wall, to take up the natural slack that the liner will have towards the deep end. I need to re-trowel just the deep end of my pool as water got behind it and caused the sand to slide under the liner. When you get ready to begin, the first steps are to safely drain the pool to the storm drain or far from the pool, where it wont flow back under the pool. Dont cut out the vinyl inside until the faceplate or ring is installed. There may be a fee, and you may need to provide your own hose, from the hydrant to your pool, but it may be an option for some people. Measurement Form: You will need a measurement form for an inground pool liner. When done measuring, check that A and B measurements add up to the total of all length and width measures. For missing sections, ask your dealer for a section of liner track. Reconnect the cord to the string securely, and pull the cord back through the conduit to the J-box. Vacuum must run non-stop until pool is half-full of water, or 3-6 deep in shallow end. Continue all the way around the pool, locking the liner snugly into the track. If there are wrinkles in the liner, turn the vac off and work the vinyl, trying to pull the wrinkles toward one wall or the other. Now you can cut out the vinyl inside the faceplate, trimming it close to the edge with a razor knife. Wall foam can also be added just to improve the feel of the wall, which feels rather hard and cold without it. A submersible pump can be set in the pool to drain it slowly, in 10-30 hours, depending on the pump size. Hi Greg, you do not need glue. You may ask why not just put on the step tracks and screws? That is done later, after the liner has stretched into place. Look for the tags that indicate deep end or shallow end, and orient the liner as you prepare to pull it carefully across the pool. Roll-up the wall sections, and remove from the pool. It would be wise to replace these gaskets when you replace your liner. In some cases, you have to move on, and work on them later, as the last few wrinkles may be more easily worked out when there is a few inches of water covering the area. Dont poke any screw holes until the water level is up to the bottom of the faceplate. Around the deep end of the pool, you can choose to trowel in place, a safety ledge of 4-6 where the wall meets the floor. Dont pull up on the liner as you make your initial screw holes, leave a little slack. Hi Bruce, normally I see them cut at an angle to meet, like a picture frame, with 45 deg corners but yes, with rounded edges, so as not to poke at the liner. After its all in place, take a look to check the hang of the liner. When the plate is re-installed, cut out the vinyl inside the faceplate and flood the lines with water. the worst that could happen is that it wears a hole in the liner after several years of the water weight, or pool cleaner running over it, then you can pull it thru the vinyl and apply a small vinyl patch over the hole. If they run diagonally, you may need to shift the liner in the track somewhat. Gaskets:Most step sections have a heavy duty rubber step gasket that holds up to many liner changes. Most pools will vary from the original specs, and can slightly shift over a period of many years, so its always recommended to remeasure the pool, completely. If you can afford it, I would always recommend choosing a thicker liner 28 or 30 mil, rather than a standard 20 mil pool liner. Cut the liner with a razor knife at the base of the wall all the way around the pool, and under the pool step. I suppose you could also but them up against each other, probably would work fine also. It seems like a long time and lots of bromine tabs and shock to eventually get a stable level. If you have a step section, lay a 24 across the front of the steps and duct tape the liner to it, at the same height at the track. Measure depth from the flat floor, (not the top of any coved sand) to the bottom of the liner bead track at top of wall. Cut the string with your razor knife and duct tape it to the inside of the niche. If the floor is a sand bottom, you may just try to work the pebble into the floor. Most inground vinyl pools have a geometric floor shape, with precise angles. When the water level is up to the bottom of the light, have someone with long arms lean way over the edge of the pool and screw on the large light niche ring and gasket. Use the 1x12 boards to move around, these dig into the sand less than your shoes. Replace your own inground pool liner, and save thousands of dollars over local installers! Holding the pole with a carpenters level as shown here, is not usually attainable, as (V) is normally at least 4 ft. wide. Also an old liner may develop wrinkles when re-set, or perhaps not fit as well. If you have any corners at all, you can use it as a starting point. If you need to stand on something, make sure its soft, or placed on a broad, flat surface, so that you dont damage the new liner. What is the the metal part that goes around the rim of the top of the pool called.it is secured to the concrete. When the liner is positioned properly, install the 3 strips around the front of the steps, bottom and both sides. Standard thickess is 20-ga. Hi Jon, sounds like what those are used for, a dry well that you can connect a pump to, probably had the same problem when building the pool. I do use the bromide starter. If you noticed rust around the step strips, inspect the gasket and replace the heavy rubber gasket if necessary. Paint it with a rust tolerant paint like Rust-O-leum or Krylon. Hi Duane, no not at all, above ground pool steps are installed with water in the pool. Large pools, or L-shapes may need two vacuums running before the liner will set fully. Wait until the water is up to the screw holes before screwing in the bottom step strip. Wait to drain the pool until you have everything ready to go, and a good weather forecast. I use bromine. I hope Ive answered all of your questions about how to install an inground pool liner, if you have other questions, give our liner experts a call at 800-288-7946, or Leave a Reply below for a personal answer! Falling into empty pools can be hazardous! Everything I read says the take the new liner to the deep end with the arrow facing the shallow end to start installation. This is discussed as Option 3, in this blog post Inground Pool Construction and Groundwater Issues. Wrinkles: Monitor the pool for wrinkles as it fills, or check the small ones that you saw earlier, to be sure they are stretched out. What I mean by Set the Liner is this; we place a hose (or flat manifold shown here with the Cyclone blower) behind the liner, in between the pool and the liner and suck out all of the air with a vacuum. Push it down behind the liner a few feet, about a foot above the floor. A pool pole is used as a vertical rod to measure distances across the floor. You will need to drain ALL of the water out of the pool. If the liner is brittle, faded and old, it may snap or break when trying to reset the liner with a vacuum. Yes, turn the vacs back on, and look closely for any wrinkles that may need persuasion, or pushing towards the walls, as you fill. New faceplates for the skimmer, drain and returns are also recommended, as older plastic faceplates will warp and crack, which makes a poor seal that can seep and weep water. Start in the shallow end center, and pull opposite each other, to remove small amounts of slack, while keeping the corners in place. At the pool light junction box, pull up on the string/wire to pull the pool light cord back into the conduit, and into the j-box, where the power can be reconnected and turned on again. Dan, I have a lagoon style pool that is 5ft deep everywhere. ), for your skimmer, main drain, pool light and wall returns. Inspect the surfaces of the wall where the faceplates attach skimmer, returns, light and steps. Clean off the pool deck if needed, to keep the pool clean. Can i pump them out to stop water from going in the pool? Tighten down the screws very tightly against the rubber gasket. Floor wrinkles can be pulled out by leaning over the pool edge and pulling on the liner, or using a push broom or pool brush to push them towards the wall. Thank you! Install the main drain gasket, ring and cover when 3-6 has filled the deep end. The face plates for your skimmer and return should be replaced if they have some age to them. If you have holes through your wall, thats more than Wall Foam will handle, you will need to patch with sheet metal or heavy plastic, then follow-up with Wall Foam. The SS screws can be reused as long as the Phillips heads are not worn smooth, aka stripped. Check A and B measures at top of the wall and bottom of the wall, to be sure walls arent leaning. We dont install these until the pool is full, because the liner is still stretching into place. A vinyl liner installation is easily done with two people, having a third or fourth person on the job is helpful, especially when you are pulling the liner across the pool, and locking the bead into the track. Most wells can handle filling a pool of 20-30,000 gallons. Carefully remove, with a large #3 Philips screwdriver, the faceplates for the skimmer(s), wall return(s), main drains, pool lights, and pool step sections. Dont install any faceplates until the pool is full of water (except main drain). One of the fun parts of putting in a new pool liner is choosing a new pattern or style. Install the screw hider strips and youre done! Wall is prepped, floor is prepped, and we can now open the new pool liner box and follow the included instructions. If this area is wavy, and not fairly level, it can look odd. For the vacuum hose, I usually use a mid point of a long wall, somewhere equidistant to all points. Older liners shrink somewhat when water is removed. Follow the steps of the measurement form, and be sure to fill out all boxes and answer all questions. Once the corners or other markers are established, and the liner appears to be hanging correctly, proceed around the pool, away from each other and lock the liner into the track. And, most pools have square measures with both ends and both sides being the exact same length. if not what is the next most durable liner. What are your thoughts? Leave enough cord behind the pool light to pull it up on deck for service. Make sure your replacement gaskets and faceplates are exact match before liner day. Next step is to hook up your Cyclone Blower Vac to set the liner. Once all 3 step strips are screwed on, go over each one again to make sure they are double-tight. Be sure to order new pool light gaskets, and possibly a new light ring as well, if it looks aged, yellowed or is cracked or warped. Most hoses can do close to 10 gpm, 600 gallons per hour, or 14,400 gallons per 24 hrs. Otherwise just ignore it, and it may cause no problems. Clean the step gasket, or use the step gasket kit if it looks damaged. From a Truck:Expensive to do, it can cost over $1000 in some areas to fill a pool. You can place sandbags or Water Bags up against the shallow end wall or under the step section, if it seems that you need it to help prevent the liner from slipping toward the deep end. Is it possible to do this without installing a new liner? Corded electric drills can be hazardous around pool water (cordless is ok). Specifically, inground liner warranties only cover you for defects in materials or workmanship. Plan your installation, to order all gaskets and faceplates ahead of time. If you have a step section in the shallow end, you can use some duct tape for now, to help hold the liner over the span of the steps. The clips are just to hide the area where the sections are joined. But this skimmer method is valid too, then theres no worries about the liner stretching around the hose, or the hose getting stuck behind the liner. Now do I cut the new mouldings on a 45 angle @ the bottom corners and round them off, or just but the side mouldings to the top of the bottom one ?- I have end caps if butted. do you glue it to keep it in place ? Is this normal or should the liner be in the track and not already pulling away on the corners? You may be able to reach it from above, hanging upside down, or standing in the deep end reaching up. Then once it is locked into the track, the Liner Lock product is used. Try to do the work from up above if you have a sand floor, or use two 2x3 boards to gently move around the floor. Hi Fran, maybe probably. Step Sections: There are several ways to seal up the step. Locate the screw holes under the liner, and install the ring and new gasket. From a Well: If you have a decent well, with decent water, you can fill your pool with it. You can also use a cover pump, or a wet/dry vac or even old towels, to get up the last few gallons. Hi Scott, the Stain & Scale product does bind up the calcium, but not the bromine. Try laying on the deck and leaning way over the edge, grabbing a handful of vinyl (you may have to shut off the vacuum temporarily), and pulling towards the wall, and releasing the liner slowly into place. If you shut it off, the liner will relax, and you may end up with wrinkles. Remove the main drain faceplate, and replace the gasket, taping it in place so the holes line up, and so it wont shift while under the liner. Switch sides and measure the width of the opposite side wall. None of the work below should be done before you have the liner and materials ready. Small wrinkles up against the wall should flatten out as water fills the pool. Then, trim out the vinyl carefully and close to the edge of the step strip. Then install the main drain cover securely. With at least 3 people, one to hold the shallow end wall, two others will grab opposite sides of the liner and pull it across the pool to the deep end wall. Some areas have pool drainage and discharge restrictions and regulations. Sanitizer level should be near zero, and the pH should be between 6 8, to protect your local watershed, but it need not be clean and clear. We noticed that the liner is not tucked in the track. Water should be balanced and low in sanitizer and algaecides, to protect the watershed. The gasket goes under the liner, and the plate goes on top of the liner. Davy: I fill my spa from well water so I always use a metal-be-gone type of product when I start. When you seal up all of the air leaks, you will see the liner magically suck itself tight in just a few minutes. Be sure to crank those screws down very tightly, using a #3 Phillips. Liner vacs should be left on until water reaches the shallow end, hopefully you dont have any big problems with wrinkles or a liner that slipped towards the deep end. Be Prepared for the Prep Work, so you can finish wall and floor prep as fast as possible. We just had a new liner installed on our inground pool. These are fairly standard, but its best to use the form provided by the dealer that you plan to order the liner from. However! I would call the company out and have them use liner lock to secure the liner back into the track important to keep water out and stop it from coming out of the track more. Choose a pattern and style that you like, youre going to be looking at it for many years! Carefully walk down to the deep end, using boards if you have a sand bottom. Some are only 5 gpm, however. I just installed a new liner but there appears to be a small pebble on the pool floor that didnt get vacuumed prior to install. If your fill water has less than perfect water chemistry, or contains high levels of minerals and metals, such as common in well-water, consider using a pre-filter on your garden hose. With just a few inches of water in the hopper bottom, carefully walk down to the deep end and put on the main drain faceplate ring, top gasket and main drain cover. Lower raised areas by pounding them down or scraping off high spots, and fill in the low spots. Close up pictures are helpful to find the correct type of liner track, as there are several types. Plug into a strong 20 amp outlet, keep the vac plug dry if raining. Thank you. Ihave heard so many people say Dont want run my well dry, or burn out my pump but that is really rare. It is however recommended to replace the faceplates and gaskets, except for the step gasket, which is a very thick and durable rubber seal. Dont use incorrect screws, or non-stainless steel screws. Installing an inground vinyl liner is not too difficult, especially if youve measured correctly. Order the correct gaskets (they differ by Manuf. Some wrinkles just naturally flatten when a few inches of water is on top of them, and the weight of a few inches of water can be helpful in smoothing out wrinkles in the floor, by pushing them toward the wall, or spreading them out. So, if the liner is old and faded get a new liner first. You can also use two pool poles at 90 deg angles to each other, to help hold the vertical pole in position, on larger pools. Pay a decent wage, and you should have no trouble putting a small team together. When measuring F, H, I and K dont measure down the slope, measure horizontally to a vertical pole. Dont forget your name and contact information! If the pool has severe algae and large volumes of leaves and other debris, consider renting a small Trash Pump. Wrinkles:Dont freak out if you see a few wrinkles, its normal. Most pools have a few at first, it just takes some finesse to work them out, by pushing and pulling them towards the wall, or expanding them across the floor. The J-box is usually off the deck, directly behind the light, or on older pools under the diving board. There are two gaskets used, one behind the liner, and one on top of the liner. Check the weather, and avoid overcast or rainy days. Tan and Grey tones have become popular lately, to blend with neutral backyard colors. Hi, we got a new liner installed yesterday and we turned off the two air vacuum units before it reached out the level of water in the shallow end as it was getting too late last night to complete the process. Dont use an electric drill, use a #3 Phillips screwdriver, or #3 tip on a cordless drill. Be cautious working around an empty pool. To measure width of the pool (I, J, K), use a pool pole held vertically in the corner of the hopper, and measure horizontally from the liner track to the pole. Can we start the vacs and the water back on to continue filling the pool. It neednt be absolutely perfect, as most patterned liners will hide minor floor imperfections, but try to get it as level and even as you can. I need to install new step pad and new steps. This pulls the liner tight against the pool wall. Make sure all valves on the filter system are closed to prevent sucking air through the pipes. You can see where the liner ends. There is already one gasket under the liner, now place a second drain gasket on top of the liner and then screw on the main drain ring, or faceplate. You can then extrapolate the width of the hopper, as long as (I+J+K = B). Some people cut a large section from the old liner and lay that across the steps, taping or weighting it down. In some cases you can just use a lot of duct tape, but for larger steps, youll need to lay something flat across the top of the steps, and duct tape that to the deck and to the liner, to be able to achieve a full seal. I will assume you have already measured your in-ground pool with our liner measuring forms, following the steps in a previous blog post written by Jackie on how to measure for an inground vinyl liner. is there such a thing as an inground pool liner made of kevlar. After the light ring is installed, when the pool is nearly full of water, then you cut out the vinyl inside the light ring and can install the light. Keep the vacuum running until the shallow end is covered in 3-6 of water! The vac must stay running until the water level is about 6 above the floor, or just beginning to cover the hose. Not widely available if you need to buy, but can be found at pool distributors, and a few websites carry inground vinyl pool coping. Wall foam is easily installed using an adhesive spray, using 2 or 3 cans per pool. That was a long post! First, shut off power and open up the junction box. Dont fill over your vac hose, it can be hard to remove when under water. I have two pipes one on each side of the deep end i have been told they are dry wells. Once the floor is ready install the liner quickly before debris blows into the empty pool. After removing the wire nuts, and loosening the clamps, duct tape a long piece of string to the wires. Do not measure down the side-slope, the measuring tape should be horizontal. I would suggest using a double-dose of bromide starter next time you drain and refill. Leave the floor section of vinyl liner in place for now, keeping it in the pool until you are ready to work on the floor. Hi John, the light will have to come out before you install the liner. Warranty is another way that liner manufacturers differentiate their products, but keep in mind that a true warranty claim, for defects in materials or manufacture, is rare. Dont make any holes for the step section, until the water level is up to the bottom step. Lumber can also be used, such as several 112 boards laid across the top. When the temp is in the high 90s and the sun is beating down on the liner it tends to stretch out and expand the liner, making it harder to get a wrinkle free liner installation. I normally wait to install the step gasket and trim kit until the water level is up to just beneath the bottom (horiz) trim piece, but you can approximate by setting the liner with a vacuum and using sand bags, however the water may still stretch the liner, and stretch the screw holes, until they open up into big leaking holes (like happened to me once, arggh). Lock in the Bead: Two people work in opposite directions, locking the liner bead into the track. Cut it with your razor knife into long strips, roll-up and remove in sections. Installing your own inground pool liner is easy, when you take it step by step. Cut out liner inside of ring and pull light shell up to deck and reassemble. To get every last drop of water, and drain the pool completely, remove the main drain cover and use a sponge and bucket. You could also use a push broom or pool brush on a pole, to gently push the vinyl in directions away from the angle of the fold, or wrinkle.

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