evercoat rage ultra vs gold

You must be logged in to reply to this topic. I asked about having some in back. Never guess again how much catalyst is the right amount. needs special hardener which mixes 10:1 but there are 3 different temps. Blue cream hardener included. 3m did themselves a good service by buying Marsonexcept when it was under marson it was like $24 a gallon. Nothing wrong with Rage Gold, but I am going to go with the Rage Ultra as it is designed for this purpose and supposedly less prone to pin holes. They are a polyester resin base so glaze can be intermixed to get that perfect sanding consitency. Not sure why but Ultra is cheaper everywhere right now. is manufactured with the Evercoat exclusive ECORESIN technology, it has the Rage Ultra industry-leading sanding properties including fast and easy sanding with 80 grit sand paper. A forum community dedicated to all mobile audio enthusiasts. Dont use the red hardner. Is to use the grinder polisher with a backing pad and a 4-6" 50g disc on a medium speed. I have used Bondo filler, rage gold, and extreme. JavaScript is disabled. I think it's probably the best filler evercoat has now. Dispensing and mixing is made easy with the 825mL cartridge. Since these situations cannot be duplicated, you may get different results. I just use the regular and not the Plus. We used the Key Gold and Key Premium at the shop I work at until recently when we switched over to the Rage Ultra which sands incredible. cost's a little more, but its easy to work and, sets up great, sands easily, feathers great. After he sanded down the Gold, he used Metal Glaze to eliminate any pin holes. Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ian Berky, May 21, 2008. NOT the Platinum Plus, I hated that stuff! You must log in or register to reply here. I've been reading a lot on a paint forum and a lot of them recommend Rage Ultra so that's what I bought. Now that stuff spread like crap, pin holed & sanded like concrete. Or you need to use lead. what I found made the biggest difference was the mix of catalyst. They are a fraction of the cost. We cannot recommend any fillers over rotten wood as there would be adhesion issues. I happen to like Evercoat Z-Grip, $34 here. Rage Xtreme is the world's first truly pinhole-free premium body filler. Commercial Ultra is specially formulated to allow for extended work time of 10 minutes at 75F (24C). Yes this can be used with Epoxy resins and primers. Just tryin to help, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Commercial Optex 3 Gallon Pail - Mechanical. Its non-sag formula has excellent filling properties, while eliminating the need for finishing putty. Tack free and stain resistant, which extends the life of sandpaper and reduces the chance of staining. Easily sands with 80 grit sandpaper, eliminating the need for coarse grits that can cause sand scratch swelling. Very few pinholes, none if you are very careful applying it but nothing like more conventional body fillers. If you are doing some filler where you can get a 4-6" grinding disc. Blue cream hardener included. Sorry for the inconvenience. $38gl vs over $50 for any Rage product, four I used the Rage Gold and was very happy with it. Introducing a revolution in body filler technology. Theyre fillers are the best rage rebadged as well as their glazing putties. its pretty much pinhole free. I think I got a quart for like $7.99 or so at Autozone. But the cost was the same for a gallon of Rage Gold as the smaller sized can of extreme. You might also look at Evercoat Metal Glaze as a very versatile light filler/glaze that works awesome with Rage as well (you'll need this too). Quantum1 also passes 500 hours salt spray (ASTM B117) and is compatible with HAPS-compliant and waterborne coatings. Just heard evercoat also came out with edge. Thanks Jay, I'll take a look at that. 3m is ok but I dont see a massive difference in performace vs cost. No more than 1/8" layers at any given time. Formulated with Evercoats patented ECORESIN technology, OPTEX offers superior adhesion to a broad range of substrates and unparalleled sanding properties. Come join the discussion about restoration, modifications, NOS parts, troubleshooting, VIN codes, and more! They usually have a special on it to. I don't know if the fillers are different for the different products to be honest, but if you need a thinner easier to work bondo, just add a little FG resin and mix it in You can think it out to the point of being able to spray it if you liked.. I use a lot of lead, but most people are resistant to the idea of it and resistant to learning how to do it right, but there is no better body filler on the market than real lead. Try Quantum from Evercoat its expoy based.so straight to metal and over paint. The unsurpassed sanding qualities are attributed to Hattonite, a unique ingredient which reduces heat and friction created by aggressive sanding. We stand behind our solutions and customers. Rage Gold also contains ZNX-7 for adhesion to galvanized steel and aluminum. ", Im not a real big fan of plastic fillers in the first place but they are necessary when working with, marketing is the difference, all 'light weight' fillers are pretty much the same, the variation might be in how easy they sand and how well the sandpaper holds up - they likely say one or the other will 'pinhole' less, but that's more technique than product . can't imagine why someone not big on fillers would buy 3 gallons tho', I didn't use much over a quart on daBus, Only Two Bill, kept in the nice warm garage attached to the house also. I've probably tried them all, 3M platinum is without a doubt the best. If you dont need it immediately, that may be worth it. Jim I doubt the Rage Ultra is gonna sand as well as the Quantum. I agree to have my personal data processed to receive information about INDASA via newsletter. A premium lightweight body filler formulated with the finest resin available. Remember, amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic". My local Jobber just got in a new product, Rage Ultra. Manufacturers and Body shop technicians can mix and spread large quantities knowing they have enough time to work large surface areas, saving time and increasing productivity. Failures(with pink hardner) came when I use to live in Fl and the repaired panels would be in intensive sunlight and high temps. I think I might add a video for everyone on this forum to show them how to use a buffer/grinder to do filler work. X2 on the Platinum. It sands easy, I start with 80 then 120 then 240 then prime. Just looked up Rage Gold and it is $100 online. Rage Ultra Xtra is specially formulated to allow for extended work timesup to 40 minutes. Used the platinum plus a few times but I always went back to the Platinum. The unsurpassed sanding qualities are attributed to Hattonite, a unique ingredient which reduces heat and friction created by aggressive sanding. Some products and people will say 1/4", but that's too thick in my opinion. Another trick is to use clean up thinner - acetone or lacquer thinner as a mix with Rage Gold for thin coats instead of mixing polyester resin. I tried the ultra. filler dolphin glaze body I paid 15 for my gallon of filler. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. very expensive but sands super easy and i dont really need a ton of it since the panel is already pretty close from the 5-star stuff. Many people are skeptical about it. Theres no second guessingonce mixed with cream hardener, OPTEX changes from pink to green indicating the repair is ready to sand. I saw a demo on Extreme and that was the selling point, no pinholes. I like the dyna-delite because it was in stock and I didn't have to pay shipping. Thanks Jay. If you like the ultra and its cost effective use it.Never had any issue from a Evercoat product in the last ten years or so. It is very creamy and spreads well. Rage OPTEX with color-changing technology is an ultra-premium body filler that helps body shops save time and money on every repair. And because Rage Ultra Xtra is manufactured with the Evercoat exclusive ECORESIN technology, it has the Rage Ultra industry-leading sanding properties including fast and easy sanding with 80 grit sand paper. Rage Ultra Xtra is specially formulated to allow for extended work timesup to 40 minutes. How cold was it when you used it? Easily sands with 80 grit sandpaper, eliminating the need for coarse grits that can cause sand scratch swelling. Another vote for 3M Platinum. The platinum is a few bucks cheaper also. It is supposed to be "the easiest sanding body filler ever" I tried it out and I have to say, It sands very easy! no really it is Rage Gold.. is manufactured with the Evercoat exclusive ECORESIN technology, it has the Rage Ultra industry-leading sanding properties including fast and easy sanding with 80 grit sand paper. Then use metal glaze for pinholes. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, Marson (MAR20395) 3X4 Spreaders - MAR20395, Technical & Advanced Car Audio Discussion, System Design: Help Me Choose Equipment For My Car, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Which 3m is around forty eight dollars a for the same quanity. "Met up with Charley. Even one from harborfreight with the digital speed gauge is decent. I feel it sands really easy, But that's only by my comparison from what I was used to. 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Advanced formula with ZNX-7 provides superior adhesion to galvanized steel, aluminum, SMC and sanded OEM finishes. Post your compressor/gun questions here. When I used it to fill the emblem holes in my fenders I could not break off the stalactites that formed when it drooped through the hole. I don't want to use a body filler and have problems later on, so I know folks here have experience with many types of fillers and can provide some good recommendations. I don't remember any pinholes or voids at all. Rage Gold sucks unless you like a hard sanding filler. I think I might add a video for everyone on this forum to show them how to use a buffer/grinder to do filler work. ). Quantum1 utilizes patent pending 10:1 technology that is the successful integration of polyester and epoxy chemistries. I would strongly suggest that people doing body work to get w buffer grinder. Sand easy from 36 on out to 600 with no fuss. Maybe Z grip to lay the foundation and first block followed by Ultra? I wasn't all that impressed over the 3m/Marson Platinum that I've been using for a while now. I was using the old & cheap chromalite stuff years back. Another vote for Rage Gold. Easiest of any filler I've used. Thanks everyone. And because Rage Ultra Xtra You can unsubscribe at any time by clicking the corresponding button on the end of each e-mail. Creates a tough, flexible, textured surface. Very sandable and feathers great. I used the Quantum when it first came out, the Rage Gold, Lightweight, Rage Ultra and Rage X-treme. Platinum it is for mewithout even looking at the cost really. Works on Evercoat fillers. Rage Ultra Xtra can also be mixed with Rage Ultra body filler for the ultimate flexibility in work time in most any temperature while maintaining the proper mix ratio.

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