down proof nylon fabric

It's my opinion that using a very slightly heavier .95-1.0 (1 1.05 final weight) Pertex Quantum / thru-hiker Momentum) is better than a .8-.85 fabric (final weight of .9-.95) because 1: tighter weave and DWR application cretes a lower air permability 2: It's going to have amuch beter DWR for the .05-.1 oz/sq/yd weight and 3: It's going to be much tougher and completely downproof. this time, Seattle Fabrics is ONLINE ONLY but is operating with regular When the .8 fabric is in humid conditions it is vary clammy any way. The downproof fabric is suitable for much outdoor wear and equipment, or lightweight jackets and leisurewear light down coat. Summary: Down can be a bit expensive for certain products and has been replicated with down-alternative fabrics. Your review*document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a7eefd66e78e47fc553ea851e3d08e64" );document.getElementById("ea26038b26").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Your personal data will be used to support your experience throughout this website, to manage access to your account, and for other purposes described in our privacy policy. Fabric images may not accurately represent color, texture, due to difference of monitors. Your reference to feathers tends to rule that idea out. sq yd 70 Denier. The older .8 thru-hiker was .9 and the new Momentum .9 is 1.05. But I wouldn't worry about this at all. Today, high-quality down has few quills and does not need down-proof fabric, so you can use very light fabric. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. How much warm air would you lose from within the down itself during the night asd you moved slightly? I should have said that. Thank-you very much for your insights here. However, down alternative does not have the same qualities as authentic down. We are experiencing technical difficulties with our shipping services in the checkout, If you experience an error when entering your shipping details, please call and we will process the order manually. In a bag and bivy, the shell's air permabilty is part of the heat retention equation. It is calendared, breathable and exceptionally soft with a quality C6DWR finish. Please check your entries and try again. Ay way, my point is to thank. Now, obviously if you were sleeping under a tarp, in an open-sided trail shelter, or an air permeable hammock then convection would be a problem. DWR does not mean waterproof but it will help to repel light mist and moisture and will aid in drying should the quilt get wet. How much moisture would accumulate inside during one night, sogging the down into an flat mess? So-called down-proof fabric is actually quill-proof fabric. 2022 Win Yang Textile Co., Ltd All rights reserved. The materials trends range for sustainability. When a fabric is made, there are several ways for the threads to wrap around each other. Durability is a relative term in dealing with ultralight fabrics. Paul and Ron, By picking up some standard materials, you can make your gear better fit your individual needs by working on some DIY projects. You want it to breath enough to prevent condensation but not so much to allow heat to pass faster than necessary. At Quilt shell fabrics have been designed and manufactured exclusively for El Coyote Quilts. Or,contact usif you have any questions. Some of our most popular downproof/calendered materials include: When you shop with DutchWare, youll experience the many wonderful benefits of durable, lightweight camping gear, including our calendered materials. I was about to go-off half caulked and buy a bag with an unduely heavy shell fabric (no so smart as I think). I imagine that if you're using the factory stuff sack, which I feel is much too small and compresses the down more than it should be, the small number of quilled feathers would be forcefully pushed out the fabric by the compression. You could lose as much down as you state losing for many many years, with no appreciable loss of loft to you bag. It's standard practice across the industry to use the pre dwr treatment weights and even then it seems it is maybe taken from the lightest possible sample rather than the average. Won't "X" inches of down provide the same amount of insulation regardless of the shell? 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New Live Webinar - Introduction to Map & Compass - July 2 @ 9 AM US MDT. To make calendered fabric, the material goes through calender rollers under high temperatures. Main product, including high tenacity yarns, industrial and complementary textiles, knitted fabrics, sustainable textiles, woven fabrics, functional fabrics and so forth. When you become more experienced on your backpacking and camping trips, youll begin thinking of ways to make your gear even more useful. For the best shopping experience, we recommend using Google Chrome, updated device and browser apps. Join Calendered and downproof fabrics are common in DIY projects for personalizing your camping and backpacking gear. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. You said,"Everytime the bag is removed from its stuff sack, as well as every morning, there are a couple more feathers poking out through the fabric or else stuck to my thermals." The third possibility is that the manufacturer used oversized needles what left large stitch holes or that there is some other manufacturing glitch such as excessive stitch length leaving down channels inadequately sealed. This downproof ripstop nylon fabric is water repellent and breathable with a reinforcing thread woven in each direction that gives it distinguishing squares. The combination of the temperature and the pressure from the rollers makes the fabric smoother, thinner and gives it a coating. It has less space between the individual threads, which helps keep the feathers in. All sorts of things happen on the way to the Forum. Use tab to navigate through the menu items. Ex: Lightest Pertex Quantum (non ripstop) now made is called .9 but final wgt is closer to 1.0. Get Backpacking Light news, updates, gear info, skills, and commentary delivered into your inbox 1-2x/week. I think I have sampled almost all possible light fabrics.Sure feel like it! Textiles for baby strollers or inflatable equipment are extremely environmentally-friendly. Transaction Services Agreement for non-EU/UK Consumers, Terms and Conditions for EU/EEA/UK Consumers (Transactions), B2-20120091-8. would more mainstream 1.1 oz/yd2, 30d fabric fair any better. I'm currious about other's experiences and recommendations e.g. 100% Nylon 20 denier Downproof lightweight fabric process by calendering of textiles makes the fabric much smooth and thin, becoming high-density, ultra-light, and comfortably functional fabric which weights below 36g/m. Use the links below to share this content: Viewing 11 posts - 1 through 11 (of 11 total), Live Webinar - Introduction to Map & Compass - July 2 @ 9 AM US MDT. Any one know how the Momentum 90 works as a liner? You can use downproof fabric for DIY projects on a few items, such as sleeping bags, hammocksandclothes. Jackets, Vests, Pants, stuff sacks or use as a lining. Paul, I also have a hydrogen from back when they claimed it was filled with 900fp down. Downproof fabrics use a particular type of weave. I've cleary been thinking about this 180 in the wrong direction. Backpacking Light helps hikers and other backcountry enthusiasts overcome their barriers to living a life outside in Wild Places. Inner shell lining is a high density, 10 denier, nylon taffeta fabric. Outerwear and Technical Performance Shells. The .8 fabric is much colder in the same temps from the loss of heat. What you get then is a wad of errant down not feathers. These dark colors will help to dry the quilt more quickly in the sun should it get wet. I have made two quilts with 9 oz of 800 fill down in each. All of our ultralight nylon fabrics are calendered, down-proof and have a C6 DWR (durable water-resistant) finish. Downproof fabric is used for many different things, including bedding, outer coats, pillows and for some camping gear. 100% Nylon 20 denier Downproof lightweight fabric process by calendering of textiles makes the fabric much smooth and thin, becoming high-density, ultra-light, and comfortably functional fabric which weights below 36g/m. 0.51 oz Dyneema Composite Fabric CT1E.08 (Half Yard), 0.67 oz Camo Dyneema Composite Fabric CT1E.08/C21K.18 (Half Yard), 0.8 oz Dyneema Composite Fabric CT2E.08 (Half Yard), 1.0 oz Dyneema Composite Fabric CT2K.18 (Half Yard), 1.3 oz Dyneema Composite Fabric CT3.5K.18 (Half Yard), 1.5 oz Dyneema Composite Fabric CT5K.18 (Half Yard), 2.92 oz Dyneema Composite Fabric CT5K.18/wov (Half Yard), Makes fabric softer, denser and thinner but heavier, Gives fabric a more attractive, glossy look, Adds helpful properties like waterproofing. Both inner liner and outer shell fabrics have been specifically designed to be incredibly soft, unlike similar fabrics that can have a plastic or sticky feel against the skin. These dark colors will help to dry the quilt more quickly in the sun should it get wet. Our high thread count 15d is the perfect balance between lightweight and durability. But, most equipment comes standard and since every person is a little different, manufacturers cant meet all of those needs. This fabric was chosen for the outer shell to add years of life to the quilt with only a very small weight penalty over 10D(under .75 oz. Check out our down proof and calendered fabrics below to get started on your next DIY project. Since it is uncoated it is breathable. marking on the part of Marmot as anything (900 fill my ass). However, I find that unlikely. Always take good care of your ultralight gear. When you start DIY projects, you will, at some point, start working with different fabrics. Home Forums Gear Forums Gear (General) Downproof Fabric. This high thread count fabric has a finished weight of only .65 oz/yd. Our AlphaLite Custom Quilts are made to order just for you. hyperbreeze, 3D structure fabric, anti-odor fabric and durable fabrics are U-long's specialties in the textile industry. We innovate, strengthen technical basis, properly control products quality and punctual delivery, which enable highly competitive strength of this company in the textile sector in Taiwan. It can also be processed as 2.5 or 3 layer fabric. The term originated in the bad-old-days when separating down from the quill-bearing plumes and feathers was done by hand, and the best down had a fill rating of maybe 650 cubic inches. One with the .8oz and one with the 1.1, both from thru-hiker. 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Context: 0.9g/yd2, 20d Quantum (Marmot Hydrogen), for me at least, does a poor job of retaining feathers. Thematerial is created using a specialized textile to effectively hold the down inside down products. I don't know what is going on with your Hydrogen, but in my experience it could be a couple of things. (We only use final weights in our specs, risking wrong comparisons). Located in Taiwan, U-Long High-Tech Textile Co., Ltd., since 1983, is a 100% Nylon 20D Downproof Lightweight Fabric | high-performance textile and fabric manufacturer. To be fair, I actually own (2) of the bags, swapping a couple of years ago thinking the first was faulty. WE HOPE TO OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SOON AND ARE NOW ALLOWING ONLINE WILL CALL ORDERS AND PROCESSING ONLINE ORDERS TO BE SHIPPED. By continuing to use AliExpress you accept our use of cookies (view more on our Privacy Policy). Required fields are marked *. I've tested some light fabrics that were .8 or .85 (really closer to .95 and 1.0) and they were light but so thin they were barely downproof and so the air permability was higher. woven: The men's cotton cloth squares are woven from fabric material, which is dries quickly for quick cleaning and long lasting. Browse this site, which means you agree with, Eco Friendly Fabric (Environmental-Friendly Fabric), No.35, Ln.538, Sec.9, Zhongqing Rd., Qingshui Dist., Taichung City 43647, Taiwan. These fabrics are also calendered. 2017 DutchWare | SITE DESIGNED BY SNOWBERRY MEDIA, Terms & Conditions | Shipping & Refunds | Privacy Policy. The difference in a bag's total weight between using a .85 and a 1.0 fabric is only about .5-.7oz. if the cluster is poking through the outer shell, grasp it from inside the bag) and pinch your fingers around it, then pull it back into the bag. Print2Fabric orders ship within 12-14 business days. Low success rate in replacing them (poking them back through). Sign up and be the first to know about coupons and special promotions. Every statement from above is absolutely correct. It obviously gains weight from your perspiration and condensation over the night, making the bag even colder. Calendering is a type of finish for fabrics. Our premium articles include in depth journalism and insights from the Backpacking Light editorial team. 7D yarn in warp direction and 4D +20D ripstop strands in weft direction. Login or become a member to post in the member forums! This occurs at the end of the process of creating fabrics, giving it a unique finish compared to non-calendered fabrics. for a size regular/regular quilt). As for replacing then down clusters or feathers that poke through, grasp the fabric on the opposite side of the bag as the extruding down cluster (e.g. Downproof fabricsare constructed with qualities thatkeepthe feathers inside without the chance of escape. A Membership is required to post in the forums. Never-the-less, my first one has served well for over (5) years being the go to bag 95%+ of the time. Military and protection equipment textile products made from nylon 66 fabrics, a type of nylon yarn that simulates the rugged, fuzzy texture of natural cotton yarn have high tensile strength. Monday-Friday 9am - 4pm Top of the line ultralight downproof fabric. We Ship Worldwide! Available in a black (bottom) or dark charcoal grey (top) color. Suppose the shell was made of canvas. (Assuming you're in a protected tent or something, not under a tarpor under a tarp, but in a bivy, etc.). casual: Suitable for casual and dressy occasions, a must have in any season. But the reason for using heavier fabric on the outside is not because of losing down. Everytime the bag is removed from its stuff sack, as well as every morning, there are a couple more feathers poking out through the fabric or else stuck to my thermals. Suppose the shell was made of netting. You pick every detail so you get exactly what you want. Don't get caught up in automatically thinking a bag's or bivy top of .8 / .85 / .9 is better. Different weaves will give fabrics unique properties. Designed By, This site uses cookies to collect the necessary user browsing behavior so that we can provide you with a better browsing experience. First, all the .8 , .85 and .9's, etc are really a bit heavier, usually 5-10%. Copyright 2022 U-Long High-Tech Textile Co., Ltd. All Rights Reserved. Your email address will not be published.

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