for ebayers and other auctioneers. be. you can always customise it with a sachet of Sugru They are well constructed and hold up over time. with plastic reflectors (resonators). As such simple and unfussy construction. to work at building your own tone) and that's the 23's tendency a Yamaha", I'm afraid I wouldn't be quite to quick to say it This means that they've been completely disassembled and cleaned. and tidy, but the single guard had a kind of art-deco appeal, and the two models, which may or may not be confined to the keywork. lose its stability at the top - it just gets on with the job in be almost completely neutral. Despite how it sounds, it's not At its simplest, the 23 is the 'rest of world' version of the European RAW), the 23 still has a place in my heart. at the crock socket (or neck receiver) and at the bell and give Unfortunately (for you) I have much more interesting things to do mounted on separate point screws. is tiresome to put a shine back on. teardrop touchpieces, but it's at least well-placedthough it'll horns. The trick is to tame that natural edge, but not to smother it - as far as you like without having to ream out the pillars. And as for where any of these It's easily done - it's a free-blowing horn, and if you slap a high-baffled I may have been lucky, but I've never yet had to realign the bell and spend some time choosing the right mouthpiece, the 23 will sing off in the event of a minor ding. It comes supplied with a standard Yamaha Now that's not necessarily a bad thing, assuming you like that sort other than to turn the steering wheeland the other makes you Your donation or partnership can help families access high-quality, affordable child care. Individual pillars are fitted, and these have generous bases and Report: Operationalizing Equity in Quality Rating and Improvement Systems. your low notes aren't quite as punchy as they used to be - and a It means you're one step nearer to tonal nirvanaand And then there's the business of the model numbers. It seems to it tweaked. They play easily and in tune. bit drab. There's with decent catches. the Bis Bb in among the upper stack - but divides it up between On most modern stack rod screw, but the bottom end shares a rod screw with the It also must be said that I wanted to review a decent-looking one However, round touchpiece. I say nearly always because every piece on it it'll practically play itselfbut the tone will cut They look rather like the heads There's no one horn that will fit everyone, but I've always felt Our pre-owned Yamahas are "certified' used instruments. has a clamp fitted at the bottom bow joint. or you can have your repairer do it for you. What it loses in portability it more than makes be worth casting a critical eye over the rims of these two toneholes. Well, what can I say? bells knocked out of alignmentbut this might be more to do with this mod. I can't in all honesty say it's particularly sturdy-looking hark back to the clumsy vintage mechs of old. This latter arrangement tends to formally reviewing one, mostly because there's already so much There's action - and that's cool). no-one in their right mind can criticise that. For everyone else, if you want a decent example of a Yamaha YTS23, the side Bb key. this involves some careful bending of the key (ask your repairer springs. But there are a number of differences between crook and the mouthpiece. and absorbing the impact rather than transmitting it to the body It's a bit like having a clockwork iPhone. for you. the threaded hole in the pillar), they can be screwed into the pillar simple but beautifully designed. them, which means they can take up wear in the keywork simply by to seal it up). Note the rather small screw heads. We can buy them a bit cheaper than Yamahas, so we pass on the savings to you. in price - but would it have hurt Yamaha to let the 23 have the It looks OK when it's like this example - all nice and top F# key. It's also quite simple, which makes it reliable. nothing looked quite so bad as a 21's bell key guard after it had Fee Assistance and Respite Care for Military/DoD Families. it a flimsy horn, but this doesn't fit in with my own practical They feel OK, and that's about the I particularly top stack keys mounted on a single rod (or hinge) screw - a modern large single guard that covered the whole key group. trouble. It'll take about 5 octave key mechanism is unusual, and at first glance it seems to (which instantly rules out my own) - and as these horns tend to It's functional, well-built And when you've found it you'll Granted, the plastic thumb rest is a bit on the mean side and it's What's not to like? And while we're about it, take a look at the size of the G# touchpiece. It's not usually problematic - though a hefty knock to the bell can sometimes are very neatly soldered in place. good way to test the integrity of the joint is to grip the horn pillar. Ensure you are prepared and ready for both with these tips and tools. To be fair, the giant machine is obviously very It's a bit flat, however, and you'll get a better That said, it's not as well designed as the non-tilting table that them out and replace them with proper mother-of-pearl ones - and taken a few knocks. and pin affair that was fitted to the earlier 21 series hornsthough Another notable difference from the 21 is that the bell no longer I suppose that's fair enough, given the difference My advice is to let the horn of thing. hours at a time. harder to overcome the horn's natural tendencies before you can you'll see on the rod screws - but these are shoulderless G# key cup. in the USthough this ought to mean that standards have been maintained. Note the size and shape of the octave key touchpiece. any energy transmitted up the bell keys will be split three waysand 23 around .3kg lighter - and in old money that's around half a pound. adjustable plastic thumb hook as standard. lacquer too. It'll even stand up to a spot of soft soldering in like the size and shape of it - you don't have to worry about whether key pillars on a 23 where they hadn't been directly impacted. creaking noise coming from the bottom bow joint. Summer weather, including severe storms and extreme heat can come and go quickly. Opinion is divided among players The thing I most liked about the 23 was that there's no 'in-house' wrong with that, except that in the event of a knock to the horn It'll still come off it's a bit like the Selmer MkVI - it took years before I got around at least provided the low C# key cup with a bit of protection. an adjustable thumb hook I've used). is superb. It will make a big difference. time and effort into it. mech? one does so with no sense of your being involved in the process stamp your own sound on it. to work over; it doesn't get all woofy at the lower end; it doesn't a bit of material from the bottom of my old BG sling hook before are nearly always nice and level. better than even chance that the repair can be carried out without shiny - but it soon goes a sort of milky greyand nickel plate point screws. 'heads' - one for the low C#, the low B, the Bb and the G#. who're less experienced at (shall we say) taking care of an instrument I'd leave well alone. Note too that there's no compound bell key pillar. something about it to discover, and it's always good. Sugru, again, is a popular option for And then there's the issue of what's a 23 and what's not. up for in terms of the protection it affords the instrument in transit. benefit from being angled slightly down towards the B key. Another nice feature that can be seen in this shot is the simple be subtle. It's nothing you need to worry about - I merely point it out as all I'd have to say on the matter. (which is always a very, very bad thing). bandyou'll easily compete with a guitar or two, but it won't to 'run bright' if you let it. is careful (and, let's be honest, a little bit lucky) there's a extra padding in this area. Then it's lubricated, regulated, and adjusted so that it plays correctly. like to contribute As you can see, it's quite a neat-looking horn. Read CCAoA's full statement on this issue below. series horns. Stay informed, connected, and inspired in an ever-changing ECE landscape. do, put stainless springs back on. 10 years from 1970 - and while the 21 was a groundbreaking horn Browse our hundreds of reports, webinars, one-pagers and checklists covering many topics related to child care. There's no missing that, even when the going gets frantic. They play easily and in tune. body twist very slightlybut you're more likely to hear a faint adjusters for the G#/Bis Bb keys), which makes my life easier and Guidelines (they don't have a large head that's wider than the diameter of glass. I've heard it said (many times) that the 23's lighter weight makes it's all about finding the balance. These Vitos were made by Yamaha and are identical to the YAS-23. No such problems on the 23 - because it doesn't have a compound noisy in use and is likely to remain that way for a very long time. packed full of fancy handling-aid electronics and one that's just is detachable. note by going for the Bis Bb key rather than the A. minutesand the results will last the lifetime of the horn (or the event of, say, a pillar being knocked off. In our opinion, Yamaha makes the best student saxophones available. fork and pin connector for the side C key (and the Bb below it). discover that the 23 has more to offer than you might have thought, find these days. However, in the case of the 23 pillar isn't robust enough it will bend under the stress. So now we come to the feel. If so, you'll need It's not as slick and efficient as the more modern view I would say that a well-made non-tilting table mech will comprehensively And while we're in the area, the 23 doesn't have a Fortunately it's relatively easy to fix the problem experience. comfortable in use and never had any problems with it (unlike many Actual instrument may vary in appearance. up, and how comfortable it felt in the hands. Likewise, the bell key guard *Photo for demonstration purposes ONLY. Later models are fitted with an The Senate may soon consider a budget reconciliation package, the Inflation Reduction Act, that includes no funding for child care and early learning. tone. This is Part One of what makes the 23 a giant killer - the action mantra. Yamaha were later to reintroduce a similar connector on their Custom than track down which model is which, where and when it was made stick to the ones made in Japanand the older the better. Pick up just about any other brand of horn and you're picking horn removes the Bis Bb and G keys from the line-up and has them The model reviewed The the 23 made a pretty good stab at it - and if all else fails there's It's only when you Don't ask me why, though. During the reassembly, we replace any pads, corks, springs or felts that are worn. brace, but then again it seems to have withstood the test of time. You can get what you want out of a 23 - but you've got to put the So, the top end of the key pivots on the main upper while you're having that done, get a domed Bis Bb key pearl fitted. Regulation up to them pretty well - perhaps because the bell rims are deforming and Bb share one. be down to the clear lacquered finish, and some to the relatively Nothing this will involve some soldering. Let your policymakers know that the child care system needs financial help recovering from COVID-19. I love these things; they have proper points on seem to hit the scales at around the 3.4kg mark, which makes the I'm in two thick sheets of metal by a giant machine rather than lovingly hand because it'll allow you to keep on refining that balance down the a two-point bell brace fitted, though only one end (on the body) A stencil horn, made for Vito by the Yamaha corporation. There's a large accessory compartment, and separate slots for the My 25+ year love-affair with my own YTS23 is a matter of public these days. the action has been designed to take these type of springsso This means they have been completely disassembled and cleaned. The G# and C# sit on their own pillars, while the low B And there's no adjustable thumb hook - all you get is piece of slightly I've seen it done, and the results are usually pretty poor. It's also been said that go 'George Clooney'; keep the body crisp and clean, and the greyness And it won't get in the way. youngsters handling the horns, given that the alto is more likely use it that you realise it's actually really rather slick and responsive. so often I come across a 23 with a few slightly iffy toneholes - What's the state of child care in your state. So - it's a great horn, it's well built, it's tough, reliable, an insurmountable problem - it just means you have to work a little It's also a very light horn, weighing in at 3.1kg. The nickel plate on the keywork is similarly tough, if perhaps a Plastic key pearls are fitted. no tilting table for the key keys. We have a selection of pre-owned Yamaha student alto saxophones. This is why some people describe the tone as thin, or weedy, or without character and depth. Identical in nearly every regard to a Yamaha tenor. Finishing up the keywork is a reasonably decent set of pads, fitted featured on the MkI 'purple logo' 62 series horns - which had more easy to maintain, light in weight, relatively inexpensive and capable in its day, it's clear that the 23 is a more 'mature' horn both there's a good chance that the impact energy might find its way Some of that will info out there already. No big deal, you can get this note with ease by simply go "Yeeeeeeeehhaaaaaaaa!". best that can said of them. - or have an adjustable thumb hook fittedthough bear in mind as elves do), and keywork problems are seldom an issue with these being screwed further into the pillar - and because they're shoulderless out of the box, and to get the very best out of it you have to have This is a huge improvement on the noisy, imprecise plastic barrel and sturdy but very clearly looks like it's been punched out of for decades - but I can still remember the first time I picked one This is a horn that was designed for the student market. - it still delights me, even after all these years. This is fantastic if you're the only horn in a 5 piece rock Well, that's not Given Finally, the horn comes in good old-fashioned box-type case, fitted 62's non-tilting table when that series moved over to a tilting rims, which means these horns are getting the knocks but are standing They are well-constructed and hold up over time. market for a 23 I'd be inclined to follow the 'older is better' The body features drawn toneholes, and for the most part these some models were made in Japan but assembled, lacquered and padded it would fit through the hole. There's no midrange 'bloom' common culprits. I'll come straight to the point. any loss of lacquer surrounding the job. The action on the 23 is simple was built in Japan - but later models have been built elsewhere sculpted spatulas. The 23 followed on from the 21, which was in production for about of the old and the new. in terms of design and appearance. And that's We also have a selection of used Vito student alto saxophones. We have a good selection of pre-owned Yamaha student tenor saxophones. Lastly, the bell key bumper felts aren't adjustable - which means It doesn't sound like much but believe me, it makes a difference Oh, the feel. I like to think of it in terms of the difference between a car that's But what if it's a step in the wrong direction? I well remember having to shave off is perhaps the biggest cosmetic change over the 21 - which had a your thumb has to go up or acrossjust as long as you move it In our opinion, Yamaha makes the best student saxophones available. Become a member to benefit your organization no matter your role in child care. when you're holding that much brass out in front of you for three So perhaps it's more accurate to say that the 23 is resilient Tonewise? Looking for fee assistance or respite care? And just for fun - and just to show you what the ol' 23 is capable It's not a difficult job - you could do it yourself, If you can't hand your 23 to an experienced player and of - here's a snippet of me playing mine a few years ago. Demanding Change: Repairing our Child Care System, State Fact Sheets & Child Care Data Center. to allow for a more responsive (and reliable) action. It's also a great deal less In any event, you shouldn't ever need to replace them - but if you Whaddya expect? You might not notice it other than to find good at what it does (and it tends not to whistle quite so much though, because it's now glued on. It's a very popular horn, likely to be bought by those the horn a bit of a twist (don't go mad though). you are, you'll very likely get a note out of it without too much Ah, the Yamaha YTS23. Whether it's by accident or design, the nomenclature for the 2x/2xx Both will go round corners, but An older horn would usually have all the And that, to me, is the mark of a great horn - there's always Standards seem to be slipping, and if I were in the And then there was a 25, and a 24. However, from a engineering point of that the bell key heights are pretty much bang on out of the box, lead quite hard lives, a good-looking example is not that easy to thus be more likely to be dissipated harmlessly. and in most cases it seems to be the low D and C which are the most Yamaha manufactures them in Japan, then "stencils" the name Vito onto the bell. During the reassembly, we replace any pads, corks, spring or felts that are worn. horns were builtwell, it's anybody's guess. rounded brass bent at 90 degrees, but I always found it to be very Sure, I'm biased - I played one don't be tempted to whip them out and replace them with blued steel We can get them for less, so we pass the savings on to you. 275. to the compound pillar - and with four keys mounted on it, that's to do this). to have the joint re-glued (wrap PTFE tape around it in the meantime that if you want to tweak them to change the opening height of the towards the cost of creating this independent content, please use the button And so it is with the YTS23. of far more than the price tag suggestsand decent used examples Or rather it's capable of being so. two pivots. The 23 does none of that. Our pre-owned Yamahas are "certified" used instruments. then you've not got it set up right (or you just prefer a harder below. You might see the and how it plays in comparison to a 23 - so if that sort of thing horn. Doesn't seem to happen. ButI do see a fair few with bent bell a bit more effort it can also be brought closer to the B key pearlthough So how come it's taken me so long to review it? series horns is a complete mess. All our "certified" used saxophones come with a one-year warranty. stays have large feet, which will help prevent them being knocked adjusters are fitted to the main stacks (as well as the standard and nimble. always the option of tweaking a few keys here and there if needs not uncommon to see 23s on the bench that have been fitted with This isn't as clear-cut as you might think. sling hooks will jam in it. you, whichever comesor goesfirst). This theme is carried on to the top stack, which is a curious mix record - and while I've recently moved on (I now play a TJ have them say "Wow, the action is reeeallly light, isn't it?" Well, the example reviewed is quite an old horn - as is my own 23 - which means I ought to be seeing quite a few of them on the bench are widely available at bargain-basement prices. Provided your repairer It's never that good With it's an easy, non-resistant blow - and no matter how bad a player carved by elves. The body is finished in clear epoxy lacquer - and it's damned good Part Two of what makes the 23 a giant killer. up someone else's concept of tone. as to whether this is a good or a bad thing, but ultimately it comes horns the bell keys are mounted on a single pillar or arm with four of the tarnished nickel will add a little cheeky gravitas. minds over which design I prefer; the separate guards look neat The way it feels in the hands, the way it responds, the way it blows hand. with bent bodies and crushed bells. We've created an at-home toolkit you can use to help advocate for resources to support the child care system. Well, I suppose It is then lubricated, regulated, and adjusted so that it plays correctly. to be found in schools etc. keys you'll have to cut down or add to the felts as necessary. Are You Ready to Open a Child Care Business? - but if you're having trouble with the low notes on your 23, it'll fingering a standard front top F (top F key + A key) and then adding All our "certified" used saxophones come with a one-year warranty. matters to you, you'll have to go a-googling. outperform a mediocre tilting table. The keywork can be described as utilitarian. Child Care Aware of America is dedicated to serving our nations military and DoD families. The 23 sports separate guards for the low Bb/B and C keys, and this But if you drive yourself and the horn a little bit harder, something of a technical oddity, given that this is a contemporary The 23 has a separate G key (mounted on point screws) but retains vaguely in the direction of the touchpiece, the mech will work. If you've enjoyed this article or found it useful and would down to personal preference. - and while I might once have said "You can't go wrong with subtlebut that's a Dukoff D8 with a Rico Plasticover 5 on it. (Indonesia, for example - and now China). Most tenors But there's a price to pay for that neutrality (aside from having Quality Practices for Early Care and Education, OngoingTraining and Continuing Education. The layout of the keys is spot on. Or, as I call it, The Giant Killer. mouthpiece - which is as good a piece as you'll get for the money. What this means is that in the event of a knock, If it proves to be an issue Or so we're told. years. On the down side the sling ring is a bit small - and some locking Sticking with the comfort theme, the top front F key has a plain cause the glue to crack. If the design and build of this The action is powered by stainless springs - and normally that's A very worthwhile upgrade is to whip At least on the tenors; the altos seem to suffer rather more from your repair bills slightly cheaper. potentially quite a lot of energy.
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