So I plan to give reloading the 300 AAC a shot. His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. Sub rounds are quite finicky and need to be worked up for the individual barrel/gun. Evolving from its military roots, the 300 Blackout has developed into a versatile cartridge that is useful for hunting, home defense, and target shooting both competitive and non. Projectiles are also readily available as .308 inch diameter bullets are used in all sorts of rifles. Each round is loaded using cutting-edge electromechanical monitoring for perfect alignment and concentricity. Finally cant find 300Ac or afford it. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. Here in S.C. To hunt coyotes at night you have to use a sub sonic round. 200 yards -45.21 Though, I don't plan on using it for 110-130gr especially once I obtain some H110. In addition, Lil Gun has many magnum pistol applications and is a superb choice for reloading the 22 Hornet. I have dropped Lil Gun as well, but for different reasons. With the broad range of bullet weights and velocities, you may never settle on your own standard load. The top features of this ammo are the quality bullets and primers. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Sig Sauer is one of those names in the firearms industry that you just can't argue with. They have a military-type boat tail design to really squeeze out the best ballistics from the round. The former are great for tactical situations with a suppressed rifle. The bullet did fire down range without tumbling but did not cycle the gun. These rounds work best with a pistol-length gas system and an adjustable gas block. The projectile has a ballistic coefficient of 0.56. I'm fairly new to loading 300 BLK. A precision rifle enthusiast and owner of GA Precision, George likely needs little introduction. I should add that most of what I have read indicates that max loads have much greater pressure variations. Shame to waste 150 gr SST pills in 300 BLK loads. When suppressed, the 300 Blackout is relatively silent while still maintaining hard-hitting ability. With Sig Sauer, you know that the attention to quality and precision can't be beaten. Then started the task of measuring out different powder loads with W296 into 5 cases for 5 test loads that I will shoot this week so I can finally get to loading a lot of plinking rounds. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. The top features are the various innovations in the projectile design. for starting load data. Accuracy is very good. This line gives you 2200 fps of muzzle velocity and 1343 foot-pounds of muzzle energy. 245 grain lead RNFP IMR 4227 8.8 1,033 N/A The 300 Blackout emerged from the 5.56 NATO cartridge as a specialized caliber ideal for suppressed use during spec ops. We have done the research so that you don't have to. tgilbert851@gmail.com. FP Hard lead. 125 grain Hornady SST IMR 4227 18.3 2,085 1.3 Perhaps as the popularity increased as a 300 Blackout powder Hodgdon took notice and did a lot more testing. ? I have not had any of the forcing cone issues with the 480 revolver but I dont push to max velocity either , the 44 mag is gas operated desert eagle. Although the 300 Blackout was originally designed just for urban tactical situations, developments such as cartridges like these prove that the caliber is capable of almost anything you throw at it. Keep reading to learn about some of the best 300 Blackout ammo options available today. Just curious, as my only reason for the 150's is that they are inexpensive. Silly rabbits, rifle rounds are for rifles!!! His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. Is it precision for long range target shooting? Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. In that book, you can compare pretty much anything about any cartridge to anything else about any other cartridge. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. U.S. Army - Combat Engineer - Iraq War Veteran. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. These are high-end hunting rounds that are designed to provide 1.8 times their diameter in expansion. Out of my AR 1/8 the 150gr sst 16.0 gr h110 is really accurate and my go to for hogs and deer as a brush gun. It is best to experiment with a few options for each of your intended use cases. Lil' Gun with berry's 220gr starting load. 300 AAC Blackout 220 Grain Sierra MatchKing, 2,350 fps, 100 yards -6.09 In 300 blk I prefer Lil'Gun over H-110 for bullets over 135 grs. As an old Marine my bred in need for perfection is giving way to practicality, less obsession and more fun. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Load data for 147gr, Lil Gun, 8" barrel, 300 Blackout. The one thing that I HATED to do was to scrap .223 Rem/5.56 NATO brass because it was too short, deformed, or the neck split! 150 yards -21.06 A 55 grain .223 Remington load is shown on the far left for scale. Yes Right after I mounted a suppressor, I tested for before and after groups and the suppressor did not hurt accuracy at all. Hava a few lbs. These are apparently actually Hornady A-max match grade bullets. If you dont have a chronograph, then this is not something to play with until you do. Proper subsonic is usually 0.92 Mach or 1025.8 fps or lower depending on bullet design, bullet yaw beyond the muzzle and of course, accuracy. He brings both a passion for writing and a love of the outdoors to his published content.Aside from writing and the outdoors, Brian enjoys gardening, being a co-host on The Nostalgia Blast Podcast, and learning to code. 16g just happened to give me great groups and no pressure signs so I stuck there. Thread Starter Mygrainman; Start date Sep 28, 2017; Tags blackout fun 1; 2; Next. Once you see the quality you will want to save the shells for reloading if that's your thing. Next Last. That isnt to say you have to buy a specific type of ammo for everything you want to do with your 300 Blackout rifle. I managed to get MOA accuracy, and consistent speeds of 1,050fps with 8.5gr., Winchester brass, Remington 7 primers,and base to give length of 1.500". When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. Brass availability depends on your desire to be industrious. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. The bottom line? Its shown here with a Weaver Kaspa-Z optic. (AAC developed the 300 blk and got it SAMMI approved) containers. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. This comparison to the AK comes up all the time; but really it shouldnt. Michael Lutes is the managing editor and owner at Gun Mann. There are plenty of options that match the versatility of the rifle. by tallburnedmidget Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:34 am, Post Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. All of my super loads are done with Lil'Gun. Lil Gun is all I use in my 16" 300 BLK. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. LIL' GUN VS Acurate 1680 Personally I'd call it excellent considering that its an inexpensive upper. It has digested all rounds I have put through it without one hiccup. AR platform, 8" Wilson Combat barrel, standard gas port size and gas block, obviously pistol lenght gas system, 1-7" twist. by plant.one Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:44 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Love tinkering with different bullets and powders. Since the 300 AAC Blackout uses a cut down case, the ribs will be supporting the bullet itself, so the projectile has to be consistent with the expected dimensions, else feeding reliability will suffer. You can rest assured that whatever Sig Sauer product you get, you are getting the best in quality and innovation. An Infamous round created by the Advanced Armament Corp in partnership with Remington in order to allow a .30 caliber to be used with an M4 with nothing more than a barrel exchange. The 300 BLK is an interesting cartridge for the rifleman. They use unique, cutting-edge loading methods to ensure top-class performance and consistency. I see no indications of excess pressure, so I'm thinking about trying another 1/2 grain after I have the barrel melonited. 300 yards -19.77 -4.16 The idea of evaluating your personal shooting needs is a recurring theme when getting advice on ammo selection. She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel. Designed Specifically to Give the Best Performance with AR-Style Rifles, Relatively Good Value for Money for a Match-Grade Bullet, A-Max Bullets are Jacketed, Tipped, and Cored for the Best Ballistic Coefficient, Remington Uses Advanced Manufacturing Methods to Guarantee Performance and Consistency. Make a list of your expectations for your application. The weight of the cannelured lead-core full metal jacketed bullets is a bit higher than the above option at 150-grains. On the other hand, if youre a reloader, its a tinkerers paradise. 300 Blackout 190 GR HDY SUB-X Hodgdon Lil'Gun .308" 2.050" 300 Blackout 208 GR HDY A-MAX Hodgdon H4198 .308" 2.260" . Minute variations in bullet seating depth. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. My brass and primers do not show any signs of over pressure with 17.2 grains. While it sometimes seems redundant to mention often, it still always bears repeating. Celebrate diversity and try it out! Lil' Gun is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. : Just for kicks, I tested a few factory loads for velocity and accuracy too: Load Velocity (feet per second) Accuracy (MOA) Ive been working with different loads and testing accuracy. With a sub load, you need to ensure the bullet is stable before you attach your suppressor and you need to do all velocity up without the suppressor attached. Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. Im not fortunate enough to be hog hunter so my primary motivation for a .300 Blackout would be for a subsonic suppressed round in a short barrel home defense role, something I have considered building myself just for the exercise. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. Some of their bullet and cartridge designs have reached legendary status. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Even if allowed on deer, the 300 Blackout will perform better anyway. Buzz, When you tried the 8.5gr , did you try it in your 8.5 barreled gun too? Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. You can sort the brass, but most acquired examples of LC head stamps have date stamps covering several years you can spend days just putting together a reasonable amount of like years, and still not have batch consistency. Once again, Hornady asserts their alpha dominance in the ammunition field. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. Bullets with good expansion will take care of large game, too. This ammo comes in boxes of fifty rounds. AK and 300BLK are pretty much identical at 16 with ~125gr projectiles. Also the BA barrels rock, my 9.5" BO is sub moa with several loads. Will double peel by loading in resized .300 brass and using, an arbor press , Push all the way down. Plinking, Varmints, and Self-Defense:Walthers New WMP in, Guns and Rotors: The XM-215 .22 Rimfire Helicopter Defense. All groups in the table below reflect 3 shots and are shown in minutes of angle. I build the #TTFPowderStand for the Lee Turret Press. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. Or you can get crazy and go full subsonic from the same AR platform rifle. Loaded 13.3 gr 4227 and CCI 400 primers with Berger 210 gr. Hodgdon Trail Boss may be just the right choise: Somehow I can't post a link to the Hodgdon PDF yet, but you can search online and find it. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/LILGUN_1LB.jpg. This ammo is available boxes of either 50 or one thousand rounds. I custom make all of my rounds for my 300 AAC Blackout and just started using the Hornady 150gr FMJ BT. I would do all of your load development without the can attached and when you reach a consistent 1050 fps and are sure that the bullets are not keyholeing, then you can put your can back on. I am glad they are updating higher and not lower. by Dolomite_Supafly Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:28 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, So I was looking at loads on the Hodgdon reloading data site and it looks like Hodgdon has increased the max loads for Lil Gun and lighter projos by a good bit. The top features of these rounds are the great expansion and knockdown power. Ammunition, Tips. Later I got the 6 lbs of H110 from a guy on Backpage and I had Thunderbird T680 (military version of AA1680) already for subsonics (it is about perfect for 30 C Carbine too which is what I used it for originally). Its on the lighter side of the range of 300 AAC Blackout bullets, so its intended for the higher end supersonic performance. Yes! 1 of 2 Go to page. As you can see, you could spend the rest of your life testing different iterations within this caliber. The possible reason being, without going to the time/trouble of annealing the cut off brass, bullet tension has to be suspect. I gave up on trying to truly see how accurate they were when I was sighting in my scope, I was happy then with 5 shots inside a 2 inch group at 50 yards. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. Im guessing you made the assumption that all 300AAC barrels has a pistol length gas tube, because you didnt mention gas tubes. Baseball won over for a time when it took him to Gonzaga University on scholarship as a pitcher for the Bulldogs. A forum community dedicated to Sharpshooters and Sniper enthusiasts. If you want to save a bit of money and don't mind buying foreign ammo, you can't go wrong with Aguila. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). Our list is a great place to start. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. Yes I agree a tinkers dream. Just over 1 inch at 100 yards! Theres entirely too much tinkering potential. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. 300 AAC Blackout 110 Grain Barnes TAC-TX, 2,350 fps .223 Remington 55 grain, 3,100 fps, 100 yards +0.73 +1.57 JavaScript is disabled. I want to use Hornady 150gr BTSP bullets, but cant find any data to support that. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. Feb 24, 2020 I am currently working on a subsonic load for a 300 blackout. The problem is that the comparisons do not use the same barrel lengths. This makes it a good option for a standard tactical round to tune your AR around. As others have said the M80 pulled bullets aren't very consistent on both length and weight. Lets dig in with some talk about the cartridge, basic ballistics and reloading for the 300 AAC Blackout. It is ideal for tactical use cases, self-defense AR pistols, or even bolt action hunting rifles. The top features of this ammo are the quality components and the versatile hollow-point bullets. In the time that they have been in operation, they have adopted some of the most cutting-edge manufacturing techniques. Plus, by buying Hornady you are supporting a great American company. Here is a link to leatherhead bullets. Join the #1 community for gun owners of the Northwest. Manufacturers don't tend to appear more than once in our guides without reason. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. At 18 grains everything starts to wear out quicker and the load becomes dangerous. I shoot the 168 grain .308 out of 30-06 and 308 brass, so I was thinking about using 168 bullet in black out, any thoughts? Perhaps as the popularity increased as a 300 Blackout powder Hodgdon took notice and did a lot more testing. 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